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maximlee
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crossroads with daw...need advice

first off...i know this is a personal choice... but i have notived something that i would like fellow producers to shed there view on.

i have used reason cubase and ableton ..in that order as well... reason and ableton are amazing for getting ideas out on but personal they have not got the clarity of cubase. Why is cubase such a better qualty of sound?? and does logic have that clarity?? cau for me cubase falls short on automation mainly

many thanks

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Fledz
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I'm using Ableton and Cubase right now. I like brainstorming in Abes and just generally stuffing around in there but once I've got an idea, it goes into Cubase. I just feel more comfortable in Cubase when it comes to mixdown and laying down the full track.


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music2dance2
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I'm also at a cross roads. I use reason but have tried, ableton, cubase and logic. I can understand what you say about the sound in cubase. Ableton is good, but moving onto logic. That is a great, I heard great things for years about it and its all true.

I wanted to wait until I was ready to move on and now that I am logic is the way. It sounds great, the stock devices and synths are superb, it really is a great program and is great to use. As for clarity, yes it does.

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Zak McKracken
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im at the same place, and have been for like two years now. im used to reason and i love it but i feel the sound is abit muddy. so im trying both ableton and logic. ableton seems very creative so far, while logic has some awesome included plugins and great sound. i think im just gonna keep up learning both at the same time even though it slows me down abit. my idea is to make cool loops in logic, import them as wav in ableton then do some liveplaying there, then export as wav again put it into logic for final mixdown. maybe. just to learn a little of both.

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music2dance2
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Have to agree on the sound of reason, it most definately has its lets call it "unique" sound when compared to other programs. Its one of the reasons I'm moving away from it, not entirely moving but eventually i may. Saying that I still love using it and its great to use.

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kitphillips
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Kids, DAWs don't have their own sound. Its been proven a thousand times.

What you might percieve as a program's sound will be entirely to do with its built in effects and instruments. So @ the OP, if you like the workflow of ableton, but don't like the sound, look to upgrading your VSTs.

For what its worth, logic has some of the best plugins out of the box around from what I hear.

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Of course in the case of reason that doesn't apply because its a closed system.


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music2dance2
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Although thats all true reason does sound different if you was to load say the same kick sample into reason, ableton, cubase & logic. Logic, ableton & cubase will sound the same but reason doesnt. reason definately does something different. Some people like it, but I myself do not.

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Storyteller
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About Reason, that was true in the old days but has been fixed a long time ago. Check the mixer modules, it has 2 settings if I recall correctly, an old setting (where it did alter the sound) and the normal setting where it is accurate.


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music2dance2
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I still notice a difference

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Storyteller
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Zak McKracken
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i havent seen that option on the mixer???? maybe that could save me?

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MSZ
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Registered: Jun 2005
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hes talking about this



compatible eq uses the old algorithm.

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