Hey Guys,

Pretty new to producing and just working on a lead melody for a track. Iv been using logic's ES2 for the lead melody with a tweaked version of the 'Big Trance Now' preset. But the sound is very classic and I cant seem to get enough presence out of it...

Just wondering if anyone would have any tips for trying to get a lead sound that say Sophie Sugar, Alex M.O.R.P.H or Jorn Van Deynhoven may use in their tracks.....Maybe I should be using some other effects or using a different VST such as Sylenth or Predetor ?

If could guide me to somewhere on the forum or have any tips would be a massive help..

Cheers !

Since someone will say it anyway, I'll go ahead and say it. It's much easier to help you if you post a sample of the sound you're getting right now. No one can help if no one knows where you're at, you know?

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Here is a sample of the lead that I have used

http://soundcloud.com/aren-suvan/lead-sample-1

Melody sounds kinda classic.
I would say , go with a supersaw , if you wanna sound 'asot'

but hey , there are much better alternatives.
Why don't you experiment with squares , detuned squares , distorted squares , hard-synced..

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There are a few ways to fatten that sound.

Reverb/Chorus would be my first bet, maybe a slight delay to make it interesting.

Also look into layering your sound, and like IceColdWater said, a saw wave would give it some bite.

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you could just EQ it so it dodges some of the frequencies in the mix

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I'd chose a completely different preset/sound. Layer, shorten decay, attack 0, fast compressor, saturation, EQ lol

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thicken it until it can't take it anymore with reverb and delay and then cut the reverb and delay tail off so all you have is a very dense and extremely "chorus" type lead

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Awesome guys, yeh it was sounding awful in the mix, and I tried my best to EQ it to fit in but still didnt have enough bite.......but iv layered it with another lead, a more SAW type lead from a different synth and its sounding ok now in the mix.

Still not as chunky as id like but yeh Pagan/Stephen ill work on the delay and reverb more possibly like you've said, the chourus type sound is wat Im looking for but I wasnt able to get it by just adding chorus.

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Originally posted by Aren Suvan Awesome guys, yeh it was sounding awful in the mix, and I tried my best to EQ it to fit in but still didnt have enough bite.......but iv layered it with another lead, a more SAW type lead from a different synth and its sounding ok now in the mix. Still not as chunky as id like but yeh Pagan/Stephen ill work on the delay and reverb more possibly like you've said, the chourus type sound is wat Im looking for but I wasnt able to get it by just adding chorus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytlC...feature=related

There's a part in there where he talks about laying the lead. He has 8 layers for the lead. They all sound different, but they all work together.

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Originally posted by Aren Suvan Still not as chunky as id like but yeh Pagan/Stephen ill work on the delay and reverb more possibly like you've said, the chourus type sound is wat Im looking for but I wasnt able to get it by just adding chorus.

Layer it again, but with a longer attack and wide reverb, also maybe shift the notes a bit back, so the sound comes in later and slower.

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try the above suggestions + remember each tracks sound differently in the mix.

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