Oh, you bet I'm gonna start this thread - I'm arse end up ready for a whuppin.

1) No I'm not in it for money - but wouldn't say no

2) Forum people often claim there's about $3 to be made

3) So why does the label bother organising mastering (twice on my latest track), remixes, promotional work, phoning me, time emailing, posting etc - whats it all for if there is no money being made?


Yikes

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thats the point. they take all the money. nothing is left for you.

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Originally posted by 19503 thats the point. they take all the money. nothing is left for you.

Good point

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so they must die in order for us to be able to eat. its survival of the fittest, and none of us (artists and labels) really fit.

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Originally posted by 19503 thats the point. they take all the money. nothing is left for you.

So lets set up our own producer co - operative - we share the workload fairly though and keep the whole thing very transparent? Chaos - or doable? No coat tailers.

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making a track is say 50 hours of work on average (take this for example) even the worst works are paid like 10€/hour this would mean 50x10 = 500€

Haha i believe that even tiesto don't get that much money for his tracks... the online store and the label retain 80% of the track which is sold at 1'5€ ~ meaning you get like 20 cents for each sale and you ar unlikely to sold it more than 100 times meaning 20€. You spent more in light while making the track.

I think we are in a situation that would be better if piracy finally ruins all this business because now sucks a lot.

i dont understand the question, Richard...
oh and btw, producing isnt really work.

yea i never received a penny for mine and don't expect to lol

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos you ar unlikely to sold it more than 100 times

On that basis my label would make about £60. But they've spent more in staff costs, calls, 2 mots of mastering, time on promotion, so it's all a bit of mystery.

The label said to me the track is just going out on promo - what does this mean? Presumably they send it to all thier contacts and see the reaction?

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Originally posted by Richard Butler On that basis my label would make about £60. But they've spent more in staff costs, calls, 2 mots of mastering, time on promotion, so it's all a bit of mystery. The label said to me the track is just going out on promo - what does this mean? Presumably they send it to all thier contacts and see the reaction?

I've often thought there was an Illuminati style cloak of invisibility over the subject of small time artists and labels and the amount of money that changes hands.

Maybe the lables hope that one in a hundred releases makes them a couple of grand?

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Originally posted by tehlord Maybe the lables hope that one in a hundred releases makes them a couple of grand?

Could be.

That's how a lot of book publishing works. Hit that occasional million-copy bestseller, and you're good to publish lots of lesser known authors.

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Originally posted by Richard Butler On that basis my label would make about £60. But they've spent more in staff costs, calls, 2 mots of mastering, time on promotion, so it's all a bit of mystery.

lol theres no mystery. their out of business any time. stop holding on to nothing.