Alright so i started working on a collab track with an old friend and i had a few questions about sends.

Generally what do you guys have your sends set up as? I'm new to the whole feature (i know, i should be smacked for not knowing it before) but i have all my drums going into one send, bass into another, main synths into another and FX into another. Am i doing it all wrong? I'd like some tips on this! i'm using FL studio 9 as my current DAW.

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I think you are refering to grouping parts to a bus channel for sub mixing? I do that also.

As for sends though I have reverb, delay sometimes compression on a send which I can then use on separate channels. I dont use FL but at a guess, set these devices you want on the return channels and then you can use them as send FX's.

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Originally posted by alanzo It's like sifting through cat shit to find a penny. In the end, it wasn't worth the effort.

you should group if there's a purpose not because it's easier to turn down a one fader for 5 sounds.


send's on the other hand should be used a lot, from delays, reverbs, spacial things etc. they can really make your track sound expensive if used right

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Originally posted by Zombie0729 you should group if there's a purpose not because it's easier to turn down a one fader for 5 sounds. send's on the other hand should be used a lot, from delays, reverbs, spacial things etc. they can really make your track sound expensive if used right

yeah i was thinking this beforehand. right now my drums ie, clap,snare, hihats and percs are all going into one grouping "bus" with a compressor. i figured this would give a more "gel" to the various drum tracks. for my synths, ie, leads and chords, i have a reverb and a delay to save CPU. lol am i doing this right?

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I generally start all projects with buss groups for similar instruments (e.g., drums, bass, synths, guitars, vocals, BG vox, etc.), but I add or (rarely) subtract busses based on what I'm using them for. Yes, you can use them as a sub-master for levels of instruments, but they're also useful for muting/soloing groups of instruments. They're most useful IMO when you want to treat multiple instruments the same way (e.g., have the same effect or automation on multiple tracks).

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Originally posted by Final Call right now my drums ie, clap,snare, hihats and percs are all going into one grouping "bus" with a compressor. i figured this would give a more "gel" to the various drum tracks.

yeah, "gel"-ing the drums is ok. but I found, that the use of a multiband-compressor is better suited for that purpose.

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Originally posted by Final Call for my synths, ie, leads and chords, i have a reverb and a delay to save CPU. lol am i doing this right?

yep, its not just about performance. using the same reverb settings for all your tracks is more cohesive, than using a different reverb for every track.

Edit: btw, liking your track

cheers

Ableton 7 user here but I do like this...

channel 1: kick + snare/clap
channel 2: all hats
channel 3: percs

if I use compression, I put one above each channel above.

and I use send/return tracks for fx: reverb's, delay's, etc...
1 reverb for pads, 1 for percussion, etc...

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Originally posted by cryophonik I generally start all projects with buss groups for similar instruments (e.g., drums, bass, synths, guitars, vocals, BG vox, etc.), but I add or (rarely) subtract busses based on what I'm using them for. Yes, you can use them as a sub-master for levels of instruments, but they're also useful for muting/soloing groups of instruments. They're most useful IMO when you want to treat multiple instruments the same way (e.g., have the same effect or automation on multiple tracks).

Indeed I often group parts for automation purpose's like filtering drums sections or other musical parts.

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Originally posted by alanzo It's like sifting through cat shit to find a penny. In the end, it wasn't worth the effort.

sends are useless, try bussing sounds

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Originally posted by sako487 sends are useless, try bussing sounds

Sends are anything but useless. A typical use of sends is to have one or two reverbs and/or delays on auxiliary channels. You can send a proportional amount of any one individual track to that auxiliary channel. It accomplishes the same effect as a wet/dry knob on some plugins by mixing a partially effected signal with the dry signal.

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Originally posted by sako487 sends are useless, try bussing sounds

On the contray, nothing is useless, its what works and sounds good to you. Otherwise why have it? Not the best advice to give.

Unless I have my wires crossed arent you contradicting yourself. You said in this thread you have just starting using sends and it add's energy.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=566858



I found send FX's can sound different than when using as an insert, at times. Sends have many uses.

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Originally posted by alanzo It's like sifting through cat shit to find a penny. In the end, it wasn't worth the effort.

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Originally posted by music2dance2 On the contray, nothing is useless, its what works and sounds good to you. Otherwise why have it? Not the best advice to give. Unless I have my wires crossed arent you contradicting yourself. You said in this thread you have just starting using sends and it add's energy. http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=566858 I found send FX's can sound different than when using as an insert, at times. Sends have many uses.

I meant using sends as busses, I dont like the fact that when you send a signal to a channel it somehow duplicates the sound, cause there 2 signals going to the master.

I'd much rather have 1 signal goin to a channel and to the master, and adjusting the wet/dry levels on the reverb. Sorry for the vague statment lol.

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