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Polt
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Registered: May 2006
Location: Boston, USA
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Couldn't you theoretically buy some colored heat shrink tubing and put it on the outside of a normal rca cable?
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Aug-16-2010 21:29
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Freak
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: On a plane probably...
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Yes it was me that said it- they are shit.
Maybe not so much for someone who is just playing at home, but for touring or playing out with any regularity they massively overcomplicate things, are WAY too long, and the original longer multicores have a really crap join in them that causes problems.
I made my own-and have used them constantly with no problems...and ive made a couple of sets for a couple of big names too after they too had problems with theirs & liked my method.
They were basically microphone cable (thick, and good screening) with decent RCA plugs on the end.... you can get all the stuff you need at maplin for not much cash at all, and a little soldering yourself.
You will have no problem using normal off the shelf regular RCAs though- just buy them in different colors, use tape, or some PVC tape with the in/out etc scribbled on them, or put labels on the cable end, then clear heatshirnk over the top.
Better still, learn your box rca layout, plug them one at a time, then you dont need to label them at all - saves you trying to read small labels or see colors in the dark or when pissed.
If you have to have seperate colors for each cable, then buy some colored XLR cable, (you may have to buy pre prepared cables, in which case, desolder the XLR plugs and solder on the RCAs.)
Will be a good idea to label them too though.
PM me and i will send you the link to the RCA plugs that work well with the audio 8 (some types dont work too well with it and dont stay in solidly...)
FYI - i use the same mic cable + RCAs for turntables and remove (solder internally) the ground....much neater, longer and engineer-friendly, and more robust & better signal than the original shitty technics RCAs.
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Aug-16-2010 22:13
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n3lly
www.n3lly.com

Registered: May 2003
Location: Dublin
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| quote: | Originally posted by Freak
Yes it was me that said it- they are shit.
Maybe not so much for someone who is just playing at home, but for touring or playing out with any regularity they massively overcomplicate things, are WAY too long, and the original longer multicores have a really crap join in them that causes problems.
I made my own-and have used them constantly with no problems...and ive made a couple of sets for a couple of big names too after they too had problems with theirs & liked my method.
They were basically microphone cable (thick, and good screening) with decent RCA plugs on the end.... you can get all the stuff you need at maplin for not much cash at all, and a little soldering yourself.
You will have no problem using normal off the shelf regular RCAs though- just buy them in different colors, use tape, or some PVC tape with the in/out etc scribbled on them.. better still plug them one at a time, then you dont need to label them at all.
FYI - i use the same mic cable + RCAs for turntables and remove (solder internally) the ground....much neater, longer and engineer-friendly, and more robust than the original shitty technics RCAs. |
Polt..
That is a good idea actually. I like that a lot. Would need to pick up a heat gun though as i haven't got one.
I do however have a soldering iron and learnt how to solder rca/XLR/Scart connectors so i might just make my own cables.
Did you remove the old RCA's from the turntables at your club and install the new ones? Or snip the ends off and extend the rca's coming out of the turntables?
Are we (uk/irl) able to ground the turntables internally due to having a third ground pin? Compared to our american neighbours?
Finally, i wont be able to change the RCA's at my club. So do i just get a set of extension RCA's? IE. like the multicore cables.
Cheers for the reply.
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Aug-16-2010 22:21
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Freak
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: On a plane probably...
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| quote: | Originally posted by n3lly
Polt..
That is a good idea actually. I like that a lot. Would need to pick up a heat gun though as i haven't got one.
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you can use a soldering iron to gently stroke the heatsrhink with the tip... no heat gun needed.
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I do however have a soldering iron and learnt how to solder rca/XLR/Scart connectors so i might just make my own cables.
Did you remove the old RCA's from the turntables at your club and install the new ones? Or snip the ends off and extend the rca's coming out of the turntables?
Are we (uk/irl) able to ground the turntables internally due to having a third ground pin? Compared to our american neighbours?
Finally, i wont be able to change the RCA's at my club. So do i just get a set of extension RCA's? IE. like the multicore cables.
Cheers for the reply. |
Making your own cables saves cash, plus you can be sure you have solid quality- certainly at the level i work at I have to have absolute faith in the cables, so i make my own.
You have to open up the TT and completely de-solder the RCA, solder new ones in, then have to solder the existing ground to 1 point, then link that point to another.
Its not hard at all- if your soldering skills are ok it should take less than about 30 mins a turntable. Doing this way not only inceases the length, signal and connection of the RCA, but it most importantly elimiates having to fuck about with the ground, which when changing mixers, repatching stuff into stuff, makes things massively easier.... i would HIGHLY recommend you get your club to do it. If not, then colored tape will do. Extension cables not ideal as its another link in the chain to potentially go wrong.
Its not the mains/plug ground thats being removed - it doesnt affect that or electrical safety in any way....
Im overseas at the moment on tour, but i can post internal pictures of my TT when im back home later this week and PM you details.
In fact, I have another 1200 to do it to, so if i can ill do a step by step and post it up with pictures so you can see exactly what I mean.
Last edited by Freak on Aug-16-2010 at 22:40
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Aug-16-2010 22:35
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n3lly
www.n3lly.com

Registered: May 2003
Location: Dublin
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| quote: | Originally posted by Freak
you can use a soldering iron to gently stroke the heatsrhink with the tip... no heat gun needed.
Making your own cables saves cash, plus you can be sure you have solid quality- certainly at the level i work at I have to have absolute faith in the cables, so i make my own.
You have to open up the TT and completely de-solder the RCA, solder new ones in, then have to solder the existing ground to 1 point, then link that point to another.
Its not hard at all- if your soldering skills are ok it should take less than about 30 mins a turntable. Doing this way not only inceases the length, signal and connection of the RCA, but it most importantly elimiates having to fuck about with the ground, which when changing mixers, repatching stuff into stuff, makes things massively easier.... i would HIGHLY recommend you get your club to do it. If not, then colored tape will do. Extension cables not ideal as its another link in the chain to potentially go wrong.
Its not the mains/plug ground thats being removed - it doesnt affect that or electrical safety in any way....
Im overseas at the moment on tour, but i can post internal pictures of my TT when im back home later this week and PM you details.
In fact, I have another 1200 to do it to, so if i can ill do a step by step and post it up with pictures so you can see exactly what I mean. |
That would be cool. Thanks a mill. there's no rush though.
I didn't mean the mains plug ground was being removed i was just wondering whether we were able to ground it internally because we had a ground coming to the turntable via the earth pin that we have on our three prong plugs.
I'm confusing you now no doubt.
Anyway, i might have a stroll into the maplins shop tomorrow and buy myself a length of microphone cable with some rca connectors.
I'll have to go with the extension cables though as i'm looking to replace my multicores and every club wont have turntables with extended RCA cables on them.
When you made up cables for other people did you not have to do the same? I'm assuming you made up 4 sets of cables?
I suppose the only problem with not using the multicores is if you were using real vinyl and wanted to by pass traktor you'd have to plug the connectors directly into the mixer and then swap them back over.
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Aug-16-2010 22:49
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Polt
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Registered: May 2006
Location: Boston, USA
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Aug-16-2010 23:06
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DjWoody
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Los Angeles (OC) / Mexicali
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Aug-17-2010 00:31
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