After posting in the other thread, titled "tiesto worst remixer 2002" i have descovered that some people clearly cannot tell the difference between trance and ....how shall i put this... SHIT!
Someone is trying to tell me that tiesto has done better work recenlty then armin now lets look at the facts here:

here are some examples of the last say 6months of Armins tracks + remixes + they all beat every single one of tiesto's , as shown below:

ARMIN:
armin van buuren feat. ray wilson - yet another day
shane - too late to turn (armin van buurens rising star mix)
riva - time is the healer (armin van buuren mix)
solid sessions - janeiro (armin van buuren mix)
armin - sunburn (original mix)
Solarstone - Seven Cities (Armin Van Buuren Remix)

WOW!!


TIESTO:
Saint Etienne (tiesto rmx)
Paul Oakenfold - Southern Sun (DJ Tiesto Rmx)
Kosheen - Hungry (Tieso Rmx)
Lost Witness - Did I Dream (tiesto rmx)
Avalon - Can't Live a Day
Svenson & Gielen - We Know What You Did (tiesto rmx)

some arn't that bad e.g. southern sun, but most are lame especially hungry+saint etienne so what do you think?

I'm not here to say tiesto is terrible, i am just here to say that armin is better and is the man of the moment!

Last edited by DJ Libor on Jul-26-2002 at 21:09

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Last edited by DJ Libor on Jul-26-2002 at 16:09

dont post shit and then when you get a bad response. change what you wrote and lie about it.... thats exactly the bullshit i was taking about....

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oh god another lame thread bashing tiesto.....



with the exception of avalon... all those tiesto remixes are mint...

and if you really want to compare tiesto to armin... lets look at original work...

lets see the whole in my memory album was dope... has armin really put out ORIGINAL that has been exception since Blue Fear.... hmmm

ill give you that armin is better in djing skills, but his producing skills are rather weak... and most of his remixes seem to bite off of someone elses remix or style...

...also, lets not forget that armin prolly wouldn't be around if Tiesto's label, Blackhole hadn't released his first album Boundaries of Imagination....

please... can we stop the excessive flamming of TOP DJs here... I thought tat most people came here to celebrate music not attempt to destroy it... all the bashing i see of tiesto is annoying...

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homefry

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Last edited by HomeFry on Jul-27-2002 at 14:18

Ok maybe i am being a little to harsh, and i don't want 2 put the man down, he has brought trance (well helped) bring it 2 what it is 2day. I am just saying that i think armin is better more uplifting more powerful and he can use vocals better (properly) i just think tiesto like some other DJs is just living in his old name, he was good and so ppl belive he still is when really his current work is not so great.

hmm..i'm not gonna bash tiesto,he's really good at what he does but i prefer Armin..he's so inspiring!

Greetz

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Originally posted by DJ Libor I'm not here to say tiesto is terrible, i am just here to say that armin is better and is the man of the moment!

How is this a bashing thread if he specifically said saying that tiestos not terrible, and he just thinks that armin is better right now?

Why thankyou, atleast some people can read, and take in what they are reading at the same time, i didn't know it was such a hard skill lol

You guys clearly has no idea what you are comparing. Armin looks up to Tiesto since they began work few years back. Both men have an idea of what the future holds for electronic music and both have contributed a lot to the trance scene worldwide....of course some junk like Blue Fear or The Tube for that matter....

Stop bitching about who is better and what-not as this is getting very challenging for some retards out here....

Before you go on and diss Tiesto, acting like a converted blah blah blah...put on or play BT feat Jan Johnston - Flesh (DJ Tiesto Remix).....after which you play Riva - Time is the healer (Armin Van Buuren Remix).....do they even sound alike?

How would you program a trance set if you were to play for a live crowd? Do we need variations? Duh?

Here we have a perfect example of variation in trance. Embrace what you hear and take it as a beautiful experience instead of shoving what you hear back up your arse and for that matter, being an asshole.

Tiesto's productions have been at least 99.9% top-notch while Armin followed up closely with how Tiesto and Ferry Corsten produces...

It take passion to produce a well-engineered track or remix, not just some formulae to go by. erm hemm..ATB, Darude?

In what direction Tiesto plans to take his music, I do not know. But ISOS 3 isn't as bad as what people have been dissing about.

As for Armin, he's certainly holding the spotlight....everyone deserves a fair share of glory and fame, don't you think? well-deserved like Tiesto experienced for these few years in a row....

It's not how high you go, it's how high you can stay on top that matter...

I rest my case.

Here's a treat for you:

currently i prefer listening to Armin for his ASOT episodes and simply because i don't have any recent tiesto sets

but still, tiesto is a bigger legend in my books than Armin

and why do we always have to choose, either this or that, white or black... why can't we have both armin and tiesto, eh?


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Originally posted by 2 Players You guys clearly has no idea what you are comparing. Armin looks up to Tiesto since they began work few years back. Both men have an idea of what the future holds for electronic music and both have contributed a lot to the trance scene worldwide....of course some junk like Blue Fear or The Tube for that matter.... Stop bitching about who is better and what-not as this is getting very challenging for some retards out here.... Before you go on and diss Tiesto, acting like a converted blah blah blah...put on or play BT feat Jan Johnston - Flesh (DJ Tiesto Remix).....after which you play Riva - Time is the healer (Armin Van Buuren Remix).....do they even sound alike? How would you program a trance set if you were to play for a live crowd? Do we need variations? Duh? Here we have a perfect example of variation in trance. Embrace what you hear and take it as a beautiful experience instead of shoving what you hear back up your arse and for that matter, being an asshole. Tiesto's productions have been at least 99.9% top-notch while Armin followed up closely with how Tiesto and Ferry Corsten produces... It take passion to produce a well-engineered track or remix, not just some formulae to go by. erm hemm..ATB, Darude? In what direction Tiesto plans to take his music, I do not know. But ISOS 3 isn't as bad as what people have been dissing about. As for Armin, he's certainly holding the spotlight....everyone deserves a fair share of glory and fame, don't you think? well-deserved like Tiesto experienced for these few years in a row.... It's not how high you go, it's how high you can stay on top that matter... I rest my case. Here's a treat for you:

hahaha, you posted that while i was writing my previous response. i think your post should be the end of discussion in this thread, because it's pointless to continue the BLAH BLAH BLEH after what you've said! w3rd!

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Last edited by whiskers on Jul-26-2002 at 21:59

A year Ago i would have said tiesto with out a doubt, his past productions have been out of this world. Sadly Armin has now taken his place this year and IMO armin is the main producer/dj keeping REAL trance alive.

So as for the title of this thread

ARMIN.

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Originally posted by HomeFry ill give you that armin is better in djing skills, homefry

wtf?? lol.. armin's sets lately have been trainwreck after trainwreck..ive never heard tiesto mess up that badly

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yeah, and armin has to go moochin tunes of tiesto.. *cough* sunburn = 643 *cough*

a few reminders about tiesto..

1)Urban Train (biggest choon of 2001..?)
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Lethal Ind
In My Memory (greatest solo album?)

2)Southern Sun (best remix of 2002?)
Flesh (best remix of 2001?)
Silence (best remix of 2000?)

3)magik 6 (best compilation of 2000?)

4)he won the silver harp.. and countless other awards for outstanding contribution to music....

5)setup and owns his own label (which got so big he just controls one section now) (dont say armin does to, cos armind is just a branch off of united)

6)GOURYELLA (Goureyella , Wallhalla, Tenshi)

7)Kamaya Painters (Endless Wave, Far From Over, Northern Spirit etc)

8)6th best DJ in world. largest fan base out of all the DJ's in the world

9)great DJ..

10) theres more to come.

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See what I dont understand is why people always mention the past in threads like these. There was one the other day about tiesto being the worst remixer of 02 and people would keep saying stuff like listen to such and such from 2 years ago. I think that its perfectly fine to say someones not ontop of there game and it not be a diss, as long as they respect them for what they did before.