Other than Ableton as i don't want to have to warp each individual track.

you just want to automatically beatmatch songs....

Itunes requires no warping.

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traktor beatgridding?

traktor, torq. i use torq and don't waste time with adjusting beatmarkers/grids, as i mix manually and so even if the software doesn't get the grid right (which happens only rarely anyway), it isn't an issue and i rarely notice it.

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Traktor's auto-beatgridding works really well 95% of the time.

Hardware is always needed. Try the hercules console and use the software which comes with it. I think its virtual dj. That should get u started. Its prob only 200 bucks. Ull be ready for a real setup in no time.

Btw warping in ableton isnt that hard. Ive seen people (and could if i needed to) warp tracks live on the fly in front of large crowds. Takes 30 sec to a min.

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Originally posted by discobiscuit Btw warping in ableton isnt that hard. Ive seen people (and could if i needed to) warp tracks live on the fly in front of large crowds. Takes 30 sec to a min.

+1, however, you should still look into something like Traktor. As much as Ableton is viable for live gigs, the layout just doeesn't lend itself to DJing as well as something made just for that. I've never tried Torq but Traktor is excellent as far as I've used it.

I should also add that, while in many cases warping in Ableton is easy, it also depends on the genre/time the track was released. For instance, warping older disco tracks isn't quite as simple as warping newer music since it's not prgrammed on a drum machine and more often than not, the bass drum tends to be less defined and thus, the track is a bit harder to warp with the precision you could get with something released in the last 10 years.

So yeah, don't bother DJing with Ableton imo unless you plan to do more in-depth live work.

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Last edited by floyd741 on Oct-11-2010 at 21:29

My question is related to this, so I'll ask it here:

I used vinyl back in the day, just as a hobby and never played live, and I gave up DJing for a number of years while in college.

The ease and allure of computer DJing has re-ignited my interest, and I've been using Virtual DJ. It's simple, but effective. I'm currently in practice mode, just a computer with no external mixers, but I plan on building a setup soon.

However, it seems like everyone on TA uses Traktor. Are there specific reasons why Traktor is almost always used instead of Virtual DJ?

Because they are using turntables/cdjs and beat matching with their ears. Traktor enables you to spin your mp3s as if they were on vinyl/cd. There are control vinyls/cds with a tone on them. When u change pitch (speed of the track) the tone changes. The computer recognizes this and speeds up/slows down ur mp3 accordingly. Brilliant idea actually.

But u seem like u want the computer to do the beatmatching for u. I suggested in an earlier thread... try the hercules console i believe its made to work w virtual dj. It beatmatches for u. Just plug and play. Ull be ready for a real setup in no time!

Its not all about beatmatching tho. Phrase matching is important. Eqing too. Harmonics (which i dont follow). Theres soo much.

Actually Virtual DJ will allow you to manipulate the mp3s as if they were CDs and Vinyls too.

And Traktor will also auto beatmatch.

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HI! what frequency is the traktor signal on? and what waveform? if its a sinus or saw then u could have made a far easier controller than a 1210 or cdj. can someone post the actualy signal that is used for pitching?