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Blake Edwards
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Do you have to warp each track to mix with Ableton?

I have thousands of tracks but don't have enough time to warp each individual track is this the only way?

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Yes

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My suggestion would be to only warp the tracks you want to use right away. It would take too long to warp all of them if you're not going to use them.

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You can warp an entire artist's tracks by right clicking on the folder, but other then that you have to do it all a folder at a time.


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Ableton can warp any track automatically when you load it, so theoretically you could just make sure you load any track about 20 seconds before you want to play it and you'd be ok, but for best results you really want to warp it in advance, adjust it if necessary and make sure it's right.

It might be possible to set up a slider on a MIDI controller to adjust the tempo of a channel on the fly, CDJ/vinyl-style, but when I had a go a little while ago I couldn't find a quick and easy way of doing it (admittedly I didn't try that hard)


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You lazy bastard.


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I was messing around with 8 to make a few edits and i could not for the life of me figure it out. It took me 15 minutes to warp a 35 second sample.

ableton 8 sucks.


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Originally posted by Stu Cox
Ableton can warp any track automatically when you load it, so theoretically you could just make sure you load any track about 20 seconds before you want to play it and you'd be ok, but for best results you really want to warp it in advance, adjust it if necessary and make sure it's right.

It might be possible to set up a slider on a MIDI controller to adjust the tempo of a channel on the fly, CDJ/vinyl-style, but when I had a go a little while ago I couldn't find a quick and easy way of doing it (admittedly I didn't try that hard)


there's not really a way to do that. you can either setup a slider on the master tempo or on the sample tempo, but if you do it on the sample, it retroactively adjusts the entire thing, so, say, if you slid it down, the track would skip forward.

ableton's automatic warping on import never works 100% accurately. It gets the overall tempo close if not spot on most of the time, but the markers are always incorrectly offset.

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I was messing around with 8 to make a few edits and i could not for the life of me figure it out. It took me 15 minutes to warp a 35 second sample.

ableton 8 sucks.


yeah, the new warping is a little odd, compared to past versions. I was really annoyed with it at first, but it just took a little getting used to. I don't even think about it now.


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there's not really a way to do that. you can either setup a slider on the master tempo or on the sample tempo, but if you do it on the sample, it retroactively adjusts the entire thing, so, say, if you slid it down, the track would skip forward.

I thought as much - cheers for clearing it up

Yet more support for my theory that Ableton really isn't an appropriate tool for 'normal' DJing... I think you have to be doing quite a lot more in terms of arranging loops and much more of a live performance before it makes sense to choose Ableton over Traktor, Serato or just good old CDJs/decks.

But maybe it's just me - I want to be able to turn up and play with absolute minimum preparation (or at least my preparation time should be spent picking tracks and practising technical elements, not warping all of my tunes)


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Originally posted by shaw
there's not really a way to do that. you can either setup a slider on the master tempo or on the sample tempo, but if you do it on the sample, it retroactively adjusts the entire thing, so, say, if you slid it down, the track would skip forward.


You can actually midi-map a channels tempo nudge controls to a midi controller and play your tracks un-warped and be able to mix manually, but it's pretty stupid imo.

I saw this guy set-up a template in this style.



Nevermind...actually I think you still need to warp the tracks.


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