Hey guys,

What's the learning curve for Cubase, how does it compare to fruity loops?

Any long term users offer good places to start/tips for getting up and running asap.

Cheers,

Lunar.

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a week max

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I'm on cubase5 and find it dead simple. I find I use a few basic all the time such as grove agent as a vst inset for drums (often several instances - one for kicks for example). Drag samples in from your files into media bay, then drag em to grove agent pads and your ready to play.

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Originally posted by Richard Butler I'm on cubase5 and find it dead simple. I find I use a few basic all the time such as grove agent as a vst inset for drums (often several instances - one for kicks for example). Drag samples in from your files into media bay, then drag em to grove agent pads and your ready to play. Any tips you want just contact me.

I'd appreciate a link to the basics.

I'm very experienced with FL and can use it to do pretty much what I like, never the less I have (fully legitimately) got hold of Cubase and would love to learn a new DAW.

I know nothing of it as I stand.

Any links to forums or video tutorials that are useful would be much appreciated.

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 I'd appreciate a link to the basics. I'm very experienced with FL and can use it to do pretty much what I like, never the less I have (fully legitimately) got hold of Cubase and would love to learn a new DAW. I know nothing of it as I stand. Any links to forums or video tutorials that are useful would be much appreciated.

You'll find that Cubase5 has a very in-depth help file...Always being your number 1 place to start...

If you have specific DAW questions you can always google/youtube it.

Having gone from FL9XXL to Cubase5 just recently myself, I can tell you that it shouldn't take long...

Pretty much everything is laid out the same way in terms of midi/event sequencer, piano roll, mixer, sends etc...The main thing is simply figuring out where the hell everything is at.

I find automating in cubase5 to be a little bit more annoying though, as it doesn't have the nice parametric editing that FL does...but Cubase5 has far superior rendering and built-in VST's...oh and vari-audio yeaaaah. (I've heard that the latest FL will have something similar though, lol)

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Originally posted by theterran You'll find that Cubase5 has a very in-depth help file...Always being your number 1 place to start... If you have specific DAW questions you can always google/youtube it. Having gone from FL9XXL to Cubase5 just recently myself, I can tell you that it shouldn't take long... Pretty much everything is laid out the same way in terms of midi/event sequencer, piano roll, mixer, sends etc...The main thing is simply figuring out where the hell everything is at. I find automating in cubase5 to be a little bit more annoying though, as it doesn't have the nice parametric editing that FL does...but Cubase5 has far superior rendering and built-in VST's...oh and vari-audio yeaaaah. (I've heard that the latest FL will have something similar though, lol)

Nice, thanks for that. FL came with a getting started guide that was really useful.

I know there is google, but often you find a load of shit.

Is the piano roll as good as FL? I've used Ableton, but it was poo tbh.

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You know, William Blake said... uh, nothing is lost. Nothing is lost and I... I really believe that, we only move on...

Hard to say on the piano roll...there's pros and cons...

I find Fl easier for manual midi input...but now that I have a midi controller that's a bit of a moot point...

I'd still say that Cubase5's piano roll is much more intuitive and simple to use than FL's.

Having gotten really comfy with Cubase5, I hardly find myself opening up FL anymore...

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Originally posted by theterran Hard to say on the piano roll...there's pros and cons... I find Fl easier for manual midi input...but now that I have a midi controller that's a bit of a moot point... I'd still say that Cubase5's piano roll is much more intuitive and simple to use than FL's. Having gotten really comfy with Cubase5, I hardly find myself opening up FL anymore...

Sounds daft, but I worry that cubase is took messy/complicated. Fruity is really stripped back and I like that. Cubase, etc just seem so bloody all over the place.

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 Sounds daft, but I worry that cubase is took messy/complicated. Fruity is really stripped back and I like that. Cubase, etc just seem so bloody all over the place.

It's really not...give it a week. Again, it's all over the place because you're acquainting yourself with a new DAW...Just like FL was probably all over the place for you when you first started with it...(was for me :S)

Trust me...Cubase5 is a definite step-up in quality and 100% worth learning. Also, the more DAWs you can work with, the more collaboration your opened up to...

If you want all over the place...pickup Reason 4, load up some synths and VST's...then press the tab button. You'll go "WTFisthisIdonteven!?!?"


Fl is still pretty baller for it's price though.

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 Sounds daft, but I worry that cubase is took messy/complicated. Fruity is really stripped back and I like that. Cubase, etc just seem so bloody all over the place.

Then why change???

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i would say cubase is probably the most intuitive DAW out there. Extremely simple to grasp.

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Oh no we lost another one.

Way to turn your back on a good program trader... lolz.

Seriously though why do so many people leave FL? I've had the impulse plenty of times myself but its such a ridiculously quick program to lay down beats in.
Not to mention the piano roll is prob one of the more important aspects for me, and using the piano roll on Live or Reason puts a huge kill on my inspiration to even want to produce. I've only opened Cubase randomly like 3 times in the past but I wound up wasting so much damn time doing tasks that would take 30 seconds in FL.

Sure it likely has a ton of features I don't even know about, but I don't even use all the features in FL. All I need is a decent piano roll, a easy to navigate interface and I'm set. I should also mention I was never confused the first time I saw FLs interface, and every other program has been a bitch in some way to get use to.

If Cubase is the most 'intuitive DAW' out there than FL must be the most intuitive sequencer... lol