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Originally posted by DJ Eco I just think there's so much better dubstep out there!! It's just more evidence of this big EDM hypewagon that is making a bunch of people world-famous touring DJs overnight. Like the name of that DJ duo from out West, there's so many new "manufactured superstars" in EDM now, coming out of no where and within 3 months playing main stage at festivals. Plus, don't tell me that you think this guy produced it all? That second track?... Really?

are you talking about those EC Twins that "brought house music to LA"?
Yeah I was randomly at a club where they were playing. It was terrible, Like abercombie and fitch on CDJs. ::Shivers::

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Originally posted by DJ Eco LOL.. No idea, I actually know nothing about them, but that word popped into my head when this topic came up, and I knew it was the alias of 2 DJs.. Go figure lol

Consider yourself lucky, some things, once seen can never be unseen. Luckily since then I have found a bunch of LA's underground parties.

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That four tet track is dope.

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Originally posted by kadomony sup

i can always count on you to drop some good tunes in a thread

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Originally posted by DJ Eco Gunna stop my opinions there though haha.. Knowing my track record, this turns into a 45 page post like the Deadmau5 thread two years ago haha.. I have an opinion, just like all of you guys do!

don't blame u brotha!

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Originally posted by DJ Eco Gunna stop my opinions there though haha.. Knowing my track record, this turns into a 45 page post like the Deadmau5 thread two years ago haha.. I have an opinion, just like all of you guys do!

honestly dude? you and zack are 2 people on the EXTREMELY short list of those with whom I enjoy debating on these forums. Why? because you aren't hating, you are asserting a claim and using calm, logical arguments to back that claim.

/praise

I get what you're saying with how this dude popped out of nowhere and didn't necessarily go through the 'blood, sweat, tears' aspect of trying to make it. Then again, when I wikipedia'd him, I found that this guy has been playing hardcore and punk music for a long time. His band was on the warped tour. he was rocking shows, putting in the blood, sweat and tears... i think. unless his wiki has been faked by the machine. I wouldnt put it past them. because you're right, the music PR, hype, 'branding' machine could put some hairspray and an earring on a crow, auto-tune its 'ckaaww ka-kaawww' and make a platinum album (hey, I think I may be on to something!!)

as far as the whole thinking a guy is sick because he had the whole top 10... no, thats not why i think he is sick. I think he's sick because of the utter crackiness of his beats, even if im not the biggest fan of electro, i just respected the random crack bass insanity. but i was also reeeaaallly feeling that ambient-type uplifting-ish stuff.

whether or not he actually produced it? who knows. Given he's from LA and that the whole hipster culture is more or less "in", cause lets be honest... it is to a degree. If enough people hate on hipsters, then they're style must be of importance. cause no one hates on something that's unimportant...

back to my point... given he's from LA and has this weirdo long hair and glasses and makes electro and he's an LA cool guy... I feel like that really IS an image the machine could have put out. who knows.

Wait... there's more, real quick

on to the topic of feeling like people dont work hard and get noticed off nothing... that fucking pisses me off... I used to want to be a rapper. I wasnt bad at it either. But i was a jew from the burbs and the way rap music was, i had to be a G'd up hustler to make it. So I went out and became a G'd up hustler. I moved and was around those moving a LOT of this and that. I kept rapping. I event got a meeting with Pat Moxey. he loved the whole "Burbs to the Block concept" I put in my blood sweat and tears for mad long. And what happens? myspace blows up and any cock sucker with a decent lyric can be heard without doing SHIT. and now??? Rapping isnt about how deep you run or even how conscious your rhymes are... its about how many bow ties and square shaped, thick framed glasses you own. What the fuck happened?

/rant

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Originally posted by DJ Eco Like the name of that DJ duo from out West, there's so many new "manufactured superstars" in EDM now, coming out of no where and within 3 months playing main stage at festivals.

Yeah....LOL. Such a great point. God, I saw Manufactured Superstars open for Markus in Vegas in maybe February. They were terrible- which made me appreciate Markus' set even more. As soon as he came on the entire atmosphere changed. I met up with a bunch of TAs there and I wasn't the only one displeased with their set - in fact, quite a few TAs actually LEFT THE CLUB because they thought the music was THAT bad and then returned when they heard markus was coming on.

If ATB got raped by Deadmau5, Skrillex would be the offspring. I'm not saying he's bad. That's just what he sounds like.

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Synkro - Lost 4 Words <--- What a sick TRACK thanks for posting this kadomony, I cud just float away mmmmmmmmm

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Originally posted by The Vza honestly dude? you and zack are 2 people on the EXTREMELY short list of those with whom I enjoy debating on these forums. Why? because you aren't hating, you are asserting a claim and using calm, logical arguments to back that claim.

Well I take that as a big compliment! I don't wanna be seen as the downer or sipper on Haterade..

My perspective is really unique in that I'm currently neck-deep in this whole music machine. I'm wrapping up work on my artist album for Armada; not a day goes by without 5-10 emails back and forth about one of the songs, or one of the promotion ideas, or one of the collaborations. Everything's very strategic and because I'm finishing up my last year of college, there have been offers for a lot (and I mean A LOT) of high profile gigs and even some 3-4 week tours I've had to say no to. This is all coming after 6-7 of EXTREMELY hard work, which luckily here in NYTA I can say many of you have been able to witness.

It's like an actor who watches Entourage and then understands how the entire process works: the good and the bad. Being behind the scenes and in contact with so many producers and DJs in the scene, which is a really small world when you really look at it, a lot has turned me off to the very machine-like nature of this all.

The bands and musical artists from the past that I look up to paved their careers by plugging away at it for years, putting out immense quality and boundary-breaking music, and then maybe later selling out. Now, I look at young artists like myself who, with a series of publicity moves, and a few tunes paid for by the label and produced by someone else, can be world famous in 10 months. It's really quite simple, but still sad..

It's like if Norman Rockwell or Pablo Picasso met Andy Warhol who, because he was at the right time and place, got famous painting Campbell's soup cans..

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