About damn time someone posted this! I actually think it's pretty cool - not cool enough to part with my Maschine, but I like its layout and it's got some cool features. The Arturia stuff never really appealed to me until this.

I really think that having some competition in the drum-software-with-dedicated-hardware market is only going to raise the bar for everyone, so that's cool with me.

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It's a very bad video, but might have some potential. I like the hardware layout indeed. The circular buttons look promising in terms of step composition IMO. But who knows if that's what they'll go for... Kind of reminds me of the future retro revolution actually in that way.

I do like that they have so many knobs though, thats definately a good thing. We'll just have to wait and see how it develops. When maschine came out I slammed it mercilessly, but it developed into a good product over time, once NI found their feet in that particular field. Hopefully the same will happen here. Arturia make great VA's so that's got to count for something, and I like their new direction into hardware with this and the origin, I think they have good ideas.

Oh yeah, and I like how its more performance oriented than the Tempest too. That's definately a good thing. We need more performance oriented drum machines, the Tempest, MFB, Vermona etc just don't cut it for that.

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Guys, I'm finding kick drum sample packs a bit limiting now, even Wave Alchemy's minimal tech kicks not up to what I need.

I cannot justify a hardware drum machine to the wife, so anyone recommend a software kick maker?

I know well people say any old synth can make kicks, and I've used this method myself, but the hope would be a dedicated software kick maker would be more versatile and specialist at the job.

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Originally posted by Richard Butler Guys, I'm finding kick drum sample packs a bit limiting now, even Wave Alchemy's minimal tech kicks not up to what I need. I cannot justify a hardware drum machine to the wife, so anyone recommend a software kick maker?

The only one I can think of offhand is that Vengeance one, but I've never used it.

I don't know what you're looking for in terms of sound, so I could be wrong about this, but I doubt that a dedicated kick plugin going to solve your issues anyway. This is a topic for a different thread, but if you're using your samples straight out of the box and finding that limiting, you might want to consider different ways to use them (e.g., layering, EQ, pitch-shifting, etc.). HTH.

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there are literally thousands upon thousands of kicks available. If you can't find one, you have issues.

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Originally posted by cryophonik The only one I can think of offhand is that Vengeance one, but I've never used it. I don't know what you're looking for in terms of sound, so I could be wrong about this, but I doubt that a dedicated kick plugin going to solve your issues anyway. This is a topic for a different thread, but if you're using your samples straight out of the box and finding that limiting, you might want to consider different ways to use them (e.g., layering, EQ, pitch-shifting, etc.). HTH.

Thanks - no I never use straight out the box, I layer and eq and do tons of stuff.

I was banging on about this certain density and quality to certain kicks on some renowned pro tracks but people didn't really get what I meant - my poor explanation guilty there.

I checked the metrun vengeance product but it's hard to tell if the basic samples in there are what I'm after - I mean as a start point to create my own kicks.

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad there are literally thousands upon thousands of kicks available. If you can't find one, you have issues.

Your'e right, spending being one of them!

The misssus is banging on about skiing in Austria again, fixing the driveway, new car for her and new plastic shuttering and guttering round the top of the house, plus a summer holdiday so musak sh1t is way down her list and I had some nice stuff for Xmas.

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Originally posted by Richard Butler Guys, I'm finding kick drum sample packs a bit limiting now, even Wave Alchemy's minimal tech kicks not up to what I need. I cannot justify a hardware drum machine to the wife, so anyone recommend a software kick maker? I know well people say any old synth can make kicks, and I've used this method myself, but the hope would be a dedicated software kick maker would be more versatile and specialist at the job.

Are you after acoustic sounding kicks or 909/808 sort of sounds? Wave alchemy have really good kicks in their drum machine packs. Otherwise, D16 does emu's of the 909 and 808.

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Originally posted by Richard Butler Your'e right, spending being one of them! The misssus is banging on about skiing in Austria again, fixing the driveway, new car for her and new plastic shuttering and guttering round the top of the house, plus a summer holdiday so musak sh1t is way down her list and I had some nice stuff for Xmas.

Indoor skiing in milton keynes, get a pikey to pave the drive with a bit of tarmac off the back of a lorry, tell her it's not environmentally friendly to get rid of a car before 250,000 miles, and take her camping.

Now spend all that you saved on new kit. wheres the problem?

Jesus , all i have to buy is the odd manolo or mackage jacket. We live in the city. We rent. And I hate travelling. Actually I don't travel. Well i'm travelling now. But I can't wait to get home. But Germany was worth it. My goal was to score a wehrmacht uniform alas no luck. It took me while to find a uboat exhibit but they were all WW I models. If I was a billionaire, I would totally buy one , hire a crew and pretend it is 1939 and nobody has radar and just go apeshit on cruiseliners. OR maybe pretend i'm in the movie U 571 or something. I wish they would make more submarine movies and video games.

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