Not shocking at all imo. Your concerns about all of this do make sense to me at least. I thought this whole memorial was over kill. It made me question why is it that when a police officer dies in the line of duty he/she would get such a huuuuge memorial.
Why do cops get to have a bigger ceremony then others? Let’s say fire fighters? I don’t even think any of our soldiers that got killed in Afghanistan get a ceremony of this size…

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why do we hold these parades? i mean, every year, we hold remembrance day parades, and sometimes these parades disrupt traffic and whatnot, not to mention costs. are the vets worth saying thanks to?

why did thousands of cops who make the trip from all over (including american cops), at cost of their time and money? it's not because they are bored, but because it's about respect for one of their own.

forget the negative things we associate with cops. because there are bad cops, just like there are good cops. but think in general, what would our society be like, without people like cops?

i don't believe in general cops or firefighters or paramedics do their job, so that they can demand that the public thank them for some kind of ego stroking.

rather, on occasions like sgt russell's funeral, it's a chance for the public to give thanks and show appreciation for people who put their lives on the line so that other people can live in security and safety.

i don't know about you, but it takes special kind of people to go to work as cops, knowing that when they go to work for their shift, it may be last time they see their family, because something might happen, and they might not come home forever.

it's a job, and those who sign up for being a cop knows the risk, and they do it anyways. because someone has to do the dangerous jobs.

for that, a bit of disruption in the day, to give respect for guys like sgt russell, i think is worth it.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/0...ty-in-mourning/

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...article1875077/

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer Not shocking at all imo. Your concerns about all of this do make sense to me at least. I thought this whole memorial was over kill. It made me question why is it that when a police officer dies in the line of duty he/she would get such a huuuuge memorial. Why do cops get to have a bigger ceremony then others? Let’s say fire fighters? I don’t even think any of our soldiers that got killed in Afghanistan get a ceremony of this size…

while it's a bit cynical of me to say it, because cops don't die often enough, like soldiers, so that the public are more interested when a cop dies than a soldier.

you'd be glad to know that there are still many people who meet every plane that touches down in Trenton to meet the body of fallen soldier, as well as many who line up bridges along 401 to show their support...

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well said.

hopefully people will skip the anti-police nonsense that comes up in any other thread and stick to the topic, which is whether it's 'worth it' to have such public ceremonies.

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I really don't think that you should compare remembering the hundreds of thousands of soldiers who died for our freedoms to a cop who died protecting us from a psycho snow plow thief...

It's a far larger tragedy that a little boy lost his father than us losing a cop...

I put no more weight on a cop dying in the line of duty than I do anyone else from the bank teller getting killed in a robbery to the crossing guard getting run over...

People use the word hero too much as well. Sgt. Russell died trying to stop a car thief. That's not heroic. The mother of the baby who died last year in etobicoke by pushing her stroller out of the way of a senior running a light and getting hit and killed herself? Shes a hero. Where's her huge ceremony?

But I will repeat that it's a tragedy that a little boy lost his daddy and a wife lost a husband...

RIP Sgt Russell...

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Originally posted by Yohan why do we hold these parades? i mean, every year, we hold remembrance day parades, and sometimes these parades disrupt traffic and whatnot, not to mention costs. are the vets worth saying thanks to? why did thousands of cops who make the trip from all over (including american cops), at cost of their time and money? it's not because they are bored, but because it's about respect for one of their own. forget the negative things we associate with cops. because there are bad cops, just like there are good cops. but think in general, what would our society be like, without people like cops? i don't believe in general cops or firefighters or paramedics do their job, so that they can demand that the public thank them for some kind of ego stroking. rather, on occasions like sgt russell's funeral, it's a chance for the public to give thanks and show appreciation for people who put their lives on the line so that other people can live in security and safety. i don't know about you, but it takes special kind of people to go to work as cops, knowing that when they go to work for their shift, it may be last time they see their family, because something might happen, and they might not come home forever. it's a job, and those who sign up for being a cop knows the risk, and they do it anyways. because someone has to do the dangerous jobs. for that, a bit of disruption in the day, to give respect for guys like sgt russell, i think is worth it. http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/0...ty-in-mourning/ http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...article1875077/

Very well said Yohan.

As much as some people want to bad mouth police officers I wouldn't want to live in a society without them. They willingly put their lives at risk every time they put that uniform on. Going into situation after situation and never knowing exactly what could happen.

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Originally posted by VDub People use the word hero too much as well. Sgt. Russell died trying to stop a car thief. That's not heroic. The mother of the baby who died last year in etobicoke by pushing her stroller out of the way of a senior running a light and getting hit and killed herself? Shes a hero.

I definitely agree with this.

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