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Seandroid
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How's this sound? (Completely Changed it)

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I'm trying something new for my new track, something that has more of a groove, with tech house influences but the electro style that I like.

I'm just looking for some opinions on how the groove is sounding so far. I've had complaints about some of my previous tracks lacking a "groove" but I think this one has an obvious bounce to it, I've felt that way in the past before though, so who knows.


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Raphie
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i guess you found the triplets quantize button BTW it's not really a "groove" it's more a "count" (as it's still ridigly quantized on the grid)
this is exactly how a lot of the happy harcore anthems were made in the 90'ties. now go experiment with dotted eights as well and tell us which u like better.


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Seandroid
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quote:
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i guess you found the triplets quantize button BTW it's not really a "groove" it's more a "count" (as it's still ridigly quantized on the grid)
this is exactly how a lot of the happy harcore anthems were made in the 90'ties. now go experiment with dotted eights as well and tell us which u like better.


Well, obviously I know what a triplet is, lmfao. I had a few inspirations for the track and I liked the triplet bounce that Deadmau5 uses in FML so I wanted to do something with a similar... well.... "groove."

When people say "IT NEEEDS MOAR OF A GROOVE LUZL" is... that what they're intending to say?


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Raphie
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Ok, here is what i do, when i want to grab a certain feel.

take a loop from a groove you like, let your daw define hitpoints, slice on the hitpoints and select something like "slices to groove" and then apply that on your own pattern.

A lot of this stuff is not found in the standard supplied templates, and it's often a lot of induvidual notes manually being shifted forward and backward a few ticks. Just "stealing" it from an existing loop and add it to your quantize template library is the easiest way. I spend last Christmas holiday just doing that, having now 10 quantize presets that translate perfectly over 8 or 16 measure percussion or bassline patterns, also often, the "groove" is that not all parts have the same shuffle applied, it's more the contrast between the parts.


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quote:
Originally posted by Seandroid
Well, obviously I know what a triplet is, lmfao. I had a few inspirations for the track and I liked the triplet bounce that Deadmau5 uses in FML so I wanted to do something with a similar... well.... "groove."

When people say "IT NEEEDS MOAR OF A GROOVE LUZL" is... that what they're intending to say?


Listen to your reference track.


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Seandroid
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quote:
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Listen to your reference track.


Uh yeah, it's a bass synth with a downward ramp LFO on triplets.


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mathieu
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What you've done is not really groove, its just quantizing the notes in a different way. If you wanna see groove, take a loop from a pack that you like and notice how the hits dont all fall flush on the grid.

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Okay, thanks guys. I'll work on it, I see what you mean. It definitely does need more of a swing to it. I've been thinking about it and I have some ideas for what I want to do.

I'm at work right now but I'm going to work on it when I get home.


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quote:
Originally posted by Seandroid
Uh yeah, it's a bass synth with a downward ramp LFO on triplets.


Swing and a miss. LOL


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Swing and a miss. LOL


Uh...

It's triplets but they're sidechained to the kick...


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