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OOPS!
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How do you timestretch?

Ok so I want to do a techno remix of basically an orchestral track that is not in any way a techno track. I need to know how to effectively timestretch without altering the pitch. I need to match the BPM to put in the arpeggios, bass, kicks, open hats, etc. I use FL Studio 9/Audacity to produce. And have looked up tutorials about how to timestretch and such and have yet to see anything useful :S. Can anyone give me a hand as to how I can do this. Thanks alot.

This is an example of what I'm talking about doing:

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Paulstretch?


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Not the answer you are looking for (sorry I know shit about FL even though my avatar might makes it seem otherwise): Ableton. This is exactly what Live does very well. Technically it's really easy to grasp so it might even be worth a shot. You could use it to timestretch the soundtrack into bits on the desired bpm and then go back to fruity.

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Lith
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I believe Melodyne can accomplish the same function? I saw it used years ago to do that, but haven't tried it myself.

I have an old copy of Adobe Audition that has a pitch/stretch plug-in, and it has worked quite well, but only in short bursts. When you're working with a track that plays long, and is not using a static tempo, then it becomes far more difficult (unfortunately the plug-in is proprietary, so it's not something you can use outside of Audition).

Your other option is to learn to play the song (or find a midi file of it), and then you can completely control both the tempo and pitch. There are enough orchestral VSTis out there that you should be able to get pretty close to the sound if you don't have a rompler (for example, Korg Triton).

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I believe Melodyne can accomplish the same function? I saw it used years ago to do that, but haven't tried it myself.

I have an old copy of Adobe Audition that has a pitch/stretch plug-in, and it has worked quite well, but only in short bursts. When you're working with a track that plays long, and is not using a static tempo, then it becomes far more difficult (unfortunately the plug-in is proprietary, so it's not something you can use outside of Audition).

Your other option is to learn to play the song (or find a midi file of it), and then you can completely control both the tempo and pitch. There are enough orchestral VSTis out there that you should be able to get pretty close to the sound if you don't have a rompler (for example, Korg Triton).


Yeah I agree on that. Like Tiesto covered Adagio for Strings. Sounds really good, his version. I think I will do that. Or at least try. Thanks.

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Lith
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Cool, good luck man!

A lot of classical music is public domain due to age, so you can easily find MIDI files or sheet music to help you figure out the parts. Barber's Adagio for Strings qualifies as public domain, so it's most likely that's what Tiesto, William Orbit, etc. have done with that song.

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Every modern DAW (even FL) has timestretching facilities. RTFM.


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You realise that this track does not contain any orchestral sample and is just Midi info of the orchestral track (if it were to be based on one) put at the appropriate bpm into a synthesizer. I don't see what the problem is. Also FL is perfectly capable of timestretching to your heart's content.

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You realise that this track does not contain any orchestral sample and is just Midi info of the orchestral track (if it were to be based on one) put at the appropriate bpm into a synthesizer. I don't see what the problem is. Also FL is perfectly capable of timestretching to your heart's content.


Midi is definitely something to try. Time stretching will distort audio anyway.

Fl Studio's sampler can do time stretching if you have to.


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