in ableton i did it few times by making a seperate channel for kick and making it "send only" therefore kick goes on but is not audible unless you send that track to actual send bus and for arrangement i kept the other kick channel

i imagine you could do same with most other sequencers (not sure about FL studio though)

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Don't sidechain with the kick then. Sidechain with a seperate synth, give it an envelope like a kick, and then mute it when you are done with it.

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Originally posted by rulzz in ableton i did it few times by making a seperate channel for kick and making it "send only" therefore kick goes on but is not audible unless you send that track to actual send bus and for arrangement i kept the other kick channel i imagine you could do same with most other sequencers (not sure about FL studio though)

You don't even have to reroute the side chain source, you can just turn off the channel and the side chain compression will still work.

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you should really use a very short kick drum for your SC signal, not your entire kick also, i usually make a duplicate of the kick, turn the sustain down on the sampler, and touch the decay until it just clicks a bit. i then mute that and if i want to continue to SC in breakdowns it's no issue.

The standard way of doing this is by creating a copy of your kick track that plays all the through the track and is only used as a dedicated SC trigger track (i.e., it's only routed to SC inputs, not to any audio output busses).

Another method is to use something like Vengeance SC MultiBand compressor, which has its own internal trigger (and can use external triggers, including MIDI).

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use the transient of the kick and sidechain your synth to that.

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I use a short hihat sample to trigger my sidechain compressor. I place it just before each kick, since my compressors doesn't trigger instantly. If I place the sidechain trigger at the same point as the kick, the kick's attack transient gets buried a little bit.

Duplicate your kick channel and call it 'sidechain' (i.e., have the 'sidechain' channel configured with the exact same settings as the kick). Mute the sidechain channel, have it play throughout the entire arrangement, and then sidechain whatever you`d like to it. Done!

Very interesting ideas here thanks guys. I'm gonna give several of these a shot and find what works best for me! thanks again go all replies.

So sadly, my mixer and the whole track in general is very unorganized and messy, its been hard to do some of the suggestions because of this. But, I ll make it work...lessen learned...stay organized xD

7Skies posted a helpful video on using a softsynth as trigger... Very good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL0FMOW4WN0

The real thing is that you must have a click as trigger, not a kick... Clicks have fastest attak and fastest releases, so you have full parameters control in your hands on the compressor... I'm not using a kick as trigger anymore...

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