Itouch/phone has good ear training apps.

I use RelativePitch, Step & a Half, and Chordelia.

I have all of my ascending intervals down so far.

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Looks like a useful tool. I won't brag about my score, but suffice to say that, when I was in college, the exams for my sight-reading/ear-training classes included the professor playing a random note on the piano and telling us to sing an interval (e.g., minor 6th) above or below that note. Those exams were actually harder than most of the exams in my grad school science and stats classes.

One of the best ways to learn the intervals is to relate them to identifiable melodies in well-known songs/classics, or melodies that you are very familiar with. That said, learning paired intervals only gets you so far. I' d say that an arguably more useful (or at least equally useful) skill for people writing or learning melodies is learning to hear harmonic tones (aka chord tones) versus non-harmonic tones.

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I use the earmaster school software for ear training.

Its actually been tons of help, and it tracks your progress.

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Originally posted by cryophonik Looks like a useful tool. I won't brag about my score, but suffice to say that, when I was in college, the exams for my sight-reading/ear-training classes included the professor playing a random note on the piano and telling us to sing an interval (e.g., minor 6th) above or below that note. Those exams were actually harder than most of the exams in my grad school science and stats classes. One of the best ways to learn the intervals is to relate them to identifiable melodies in well-known songs/classics, or melodies that you are very familiar with. That said, learning paired intervals only gets you so far. I' d say that an arguably more useful (or at least equally useful) skill for people writing or learning melodies is learning to hear harmonic tones (aka chord tones) versus non-harmonic tones.

Sounds like a really intense college experience. I would love to take music classes at a college but i'm not a skilled enough musician or bold enough to do so. In this economy the best i can hope for are some community college classes on music. I am skeptical about how much i would get out of adding one or two music classes while getting an associates degree in general studies though.

For now these little ear trainers are a bit helpful if not gimmicky. regardless it keeps me enjoying the science behind music.

Edit: Also, i'm not wanting to listen to you brag, of course. However i'm curious if you even get any wrong or if the answers are just automatic to you.

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Originally posted by pwnage1 For now these little ear trainers are a bit helpful if not gimmicky. regardless it keeps me enjoying the science behind music.

I agree, they are helpful. I don't think they're gimmicky at all.

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Originally posted by pwnage1 Edit: Also, i'm not wanting to listen to you brag, of course. However i'm curious if you even get any wrong or if the answers are just automatic to you.

I skipped around through a few of them (up/down intervals, together, etc.) and stopped at 17/17. That doesn't mean I'm automatic, though. I'm a little rusty and had to listen to some of them a few times.

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I did it 50 times ascending once with fixed root, once without a fixed root. The first time i got five wrong with the fixed root, and i did 50 with no fixed root and got 10 wrong like that. It's not where i want to be, but it's a much better improvement from the 70, and 60 percent i was getting yesterday even. So i'm quite happy as of now.

Out of 40 ascending, and descending fixed root i got only 7 wrong and stopped and almost all of them were because it was a perfect fifth instead of a perfect fourth (vice versa)

So it is obviously possible, it does help. It's probably a whole other skill to practically apply this to taking the melody out of a song but i'm happy just knowing that i can learn all this and one day be able to just write out music from my head, and rip melodies from elsewhere and play them.

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Originally posted by pwnage1 So it is obviously possible, it does help. It's probably a whole other skill to practically apply this to taking the melody out of a song but i'm happy just knowing that i can learn all this and one day be able to just write out music from my head, and rip melodies from elsewhere and play them.

That's the plan...

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