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DJ Robby Rox
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Registered: Apr 2007
Location: Tiestoland
Interesting "new" technique I've been using for FM styled running basslines..

Recently I've been listening to a lot of different basslines and I noticed some odd movement happening in them that I couldn't quite put my finger on.

But there will be a very static sounding 16th styled bass, with NO octave changes whatsoever, yet the bass moves a lot with the beat and seems to change tone at the end of every half bar. It didn't sound like a filter change and it definitely wasn't playing higher octaves. So then it hit me, "maybe they are automating the modulation itself". And thats exactly what it turned out to be.

So if you have an FM styled bass, with whatever patch you are using to modulate, try playing around with how much you feed into the wave thats being modulated (usually sine or square). This results in pretty interesting variations in the bassline as opposed to using octave changes or filter automations for more groove. I've been playing around with this a lot recently these past few days and am loving some of the results I get. Maybe I'll post a sample later but this is a good way to make a static 16th bass sound "unstable" like its swelling and shrinking with the beat and you can get a lot of really cool variations with this.

cheers!


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Sequencers: FL Studio 9XXL & Reason 3.
Main Synth Bass GTs - Pro-53, V-Station, Sytrus, Subtractor, Trilian, Blue, Sylenth & Z3ta.
Main Synth Lead/Pad GTs - Z3ta, Sytrus, Sylenth, Vangard, Albino & Nexus.
Main FXs GTs - Waves Plugins, Soundtoys, Volcano, FL Native FX.
Hardware - Truths, Echo Audiofire, Virus Snow, & Novation Xio Midi-Synth.

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Zak McKracken
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sample please?

oh and glad youre back

and wow another baseline thread from you

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J.L.
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Location: Toronto, Canada

Also try layering several other basslines at a much lower volume with different different low frequency modulation settings only playing at certain notes. That helps with the groove, and gives the listener an impression that something is subtly moving through the track while not sacrificing the repetiveness which adds to the listener a predictable groove and rhythm to move with.

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DJ Robby Rox
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Registered: Apr 2007
Location: Tiestoland

Thanks I've been trying to finish up this internship lately (at a senior center lol) and between that and work just haven't had a lot of time. But when I get home later I'll definitely get a sample up.

I'm using z3ta again btw, for anyone using sytrus I'm not sure you can automate the modulator as its in the matrix and the matrix can't be automated. But I'm pretty sure you can do it with z3ta or v-station.

I got a quick thank you for the board though lol.
We were hosting an event not too long ago for mothers day and had a singer come in to sing to all the decrepid elderly members. So she got up and started singing and ZOMG it wuz the WORST form of distortion I've ever heard in my life coming out the speakers.
The woman was a great singer, singing oldies, but for w/e reason her voice was getting horribly distorted and noone could figure out what was going on. Theres a smoking hot girl who works there too (social worker - straight dark hair, perfect c sized breasts, tight ass) and she couldn't fix it, got the director of the center and she couldn't fix it. Asked the singer if she knew what was causing the distortion and the singer didn't know. We wound up listening to that shit for about 25mins straight untill I looked at the meter on the amp and saw the entire time she was singing it was slamming into the red.
But the amp was only turned up like 60% which was odd (I don't know shit about DJ equipment so this was my first time fucking around with it). Anyway of course I go up to the hot social worker and say "do you have any idea whats causing the problem?". She says "are you telling me or asking me"? I said "I'm making you an offer". She laughed. I wanted to bang her so hard. Right in front of all the elderly. Anyway she asks what the offer is, I tell her "I'll fix that machine and save this event from a total disaster if you give me your number".

She had to confirm "wait so if you fix it you just get my number and thats it?" I said "no, I get your number and a date bitch (totally made the bitch part up for dramatic effect)". Long story short she writes her number down and says "go fix it". I walk up to the amp, turn the volume down so the meters out of the red, distortion goes away, I save the day. Get the smoking hot social workers number, and now have a date!!!!
The problem couldn't have been any simpler but 3 women had tried and failed to fix it, even the fucking singer for christs sake. As much as we talk about clipping on here and distortion it was the first thing that came to my mind when I saw the meter. So I owe this forum a date is the whole point.

WHo will be the lucky fellar to take Dj Robby Rox out on a date? I prefer to be spoiled so please have a nice car. =]


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Sequencers: FL Studio 9XXL & Reason 3.
Main Synth Bass GTs - Pro-53, V-Station, Sytrus, Subtractor, Trilian, Blue, Sylenth & Z3ta.
Main Synth Lead/Pad GTs - Z3ta, Sytrus, Sylenth, Vangard, Albino & Nexus.
Main FXs GTs - Waves Plugins, Soundtoys, Volcano, FL Native FX.
Hardware - Truths, Echo Audiofire, Virus Snow, & Novation Xio Midi-Synth.

Last edited by DJ Robby Rox on May-11-2011 at 18:46

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Andy28
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Well am sure if you get stuck for conversation you could talk about your basslines

Seriously though, looking forward to a sample, and hope you date goes well

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DJ Robby Rox
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Location: Tiestoland

quote:
Originally posted by Andy28
Well am sure if you get stuck for conversation you could talk about your basslines

Seriously though, looking forward to a sample, and hope you date goes well


Either basslines or how I can't wear a condom cause my cock is too big. Girls love that type of stuff lol.

But thanks, shes one of those "old fashioned" hot girls so plenty of room for corruption here. We fit like the ying and yang of good vs evil.


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Sequencers: FL Studio 9XXL & Reason 3.
Main Synth Bass GTs - Pro-53, V-Station, Sytrus, Subtractor, Trilian, Blue, Sylenth & Z3ta.
Main Synth Lead/Pad GTs - Z3ta, Sytrus, Sylenth, Vangard, Albino & Nexus.
Main FXs GTs - Waves Plugins, Soundtoys, Volcano, FL Native FX.
Hardware - Truths, Echo Audiofire, Virus Snow, & Novation Xio Midi-Synth.

Old Post May-11-2011 19:21  South Africa
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