I really cannot be arsed burning CD's anymore.....So fucking annoying.

I have 2 x cdj 800's at the moment and will be selling these very soon.

Looking for any feedback from you guys that have made a similar transition and what deck actually worked best for you when you upgraded.

Not really wanting to spend more than a £1000 ($1600?)
I would be quite happy with a second hand pair given my existing cdj's have been going strong for around 4 and a half years.

Not bothered about all the tom trickery gadget shit.

I just want to plug in and mix however, I suppose a waveform would be nice....

Thanks in advance.

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Have you considered going the dvs route?

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Originally posted by orTofønChiLd Have you considered going the dvs route?

Very much so.

Having used it a couple of times, I felt quite uncomfortable using it.
I'm sure many disagree. Just down to personal preference.

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Which DVS have you used? Personally, I mostly use Serato, and I think it's very close to the real thing.

Anyways, back to your question, the new CDJ900's look real nice!

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Why is burning out CD's annoying?

I wonder why 40 tracks per CD is not enough...

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Originally posted by OOPS! Why is burning out CD's annoying?

I have just found it so time consuming and down right boring.

Arranging tracks that are of similar ilk onto the cd / burning 2 copys of same cd / labelling/tracklist for cd wallet etc.
Then re-arranging cd's when wallet is full.

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Originally posted by DJSoulstone I wonder why 40 tracks per CD is not enough...

I've found the skip function when I have an mp3 disc burned very sluggish and slow. Nothing more frustrating than waiting for a piece of hardware to catch up to your step.

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Originally posted by A.B I have just found it so time consuming and down right boring. Arranging tracks that are of similar ilk onto the cd / burning 2 copys of same cd / labelling/tracklist for cd wallet etc. Then re-arranging cd's when wallet is full. I've found the skip function when I have an mp3 disc burned very sluggish and slow. Nothing more frustrating than waiting for a piece of hardware to catch up to your step.

I kind of know where you're coming from and even though I like serato at times, I hate the fact i'd have to switch on my mac to music going.

I can't believe that anyone needs 40 tracks per CD, or buys music in the quantity on a regular basis to justify that. What i'km saying is I think you're either blowing the suck factor out of proportion or that you need to ask yourself "do i really need this many tracks"

Whatever you do, don't make the mistake of thinking there won't be organisation with a DVS or even USB decks. They all have their own hoops to jump through.

If I were you, just burn 10-14 wav tracks to a CD, and scrawl on it with a sharpie what the tracks are. Keep the tracks you like in one wallet, maybe put a red dot by the track name that is a favorite. Keep another wallet with stuff that doesn't get played very often.

Gain, ask yourself: Do I need my entire music collection at my fingertips at all time for DJing? The answer is no. For listening, fine, whack open itunes and hit shuffle.

Don't get caught up in accountant-like organisation of music to the point it detracts from the goal: to make music and have some fun.

I've seen so many DJ's get bored of DJ'ing through what they have to do to get organised, tracks ready, and get mixing. It should not be a process that drains the will to live from you.

From power off to mixing is less than 10 seconds for me, and 3 seconds of that time is the CD tray loading the CD I have just inserted.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN I kind of know where you're coming from and even though I like serato at times, I hate the fact i'd have to switch on my mac to music going. I can't believe that anyone needs 40 tracks per CD, or buys music in the quantity on a regular basis to justify that. What i'km saying is I think you're either blowing the suck factor out of proportion or that you need to ask yourself "do i really need this many tracks" Whatever you do, don't make the mistake of thinking there won't be organisation with a DVS or even USB decks. They all have their own hoops to jump through. If I were you, just burn 10-14 wav tracks to a CD, and scrawl on it with a sharpie what the tracks are. Keep the tracks you like in one wallet, maybe put a red dot by the track name that is a favorite. Keep another wallet with stuff that doesn't get played very often. Gain, ask yourself: Do I need my entire music collection at my fingertips at all time for DJing? The answer is no. For listening, fine, whack open itunes and hit shuffle. Don't get caught up in accountant-like organisation of music to the point it detracts from the goal: to make music and have some fun. I've seen so many DJ's get bored of DJ'ing through what they have to do to get organised, tracks ready, and get mixing. It should not be a process that drains the will to live from you. From power off to mixing is less than 10 seconds for me, and 3 seconds of that time is the CD tray loading the CD I have just inserted.

Everything you say makes sense and I can definitely relate to it.
I haven't actually touched my CDj's since I posted this thread and have been using the ol' 1210's (so much better for a variety of reasons)

I guess I'm going to stick with the sharpie method just now. I'll really have to focus on getting some more effective quality control.
Half the stuff I buy never makes it to CD.

The main idea of me getting a USB deck was because it looks like I will have some regular gigs playing commercialish music coming up. Not wanting to waste time and money burning shit music onto cd.

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Originally posted by A.B The main idea of me getting a USB deck was because it looks like I will have some regular gigs playing commercialish music coming up. Not wanting to waste time and money burning shit music onto cd.

Are you certain that wherever you're gigging at has usb-enabled decks?

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Originally posted by A.B Everything you say makes sense and I can definitely relate to it. I haven't actually touched my CDj's since I posted this thread and have been using the ol' 1210's (so much better for a variety of reasons) I guess I'm going to stick with the sharpie method just now. I'll really have to focus on getting some more effective quality control. Half the stuff I buy never makes it to CD. The main idea of me getting a USB deck was because it looks like I will have some regular gigs playing commercialish music coming up. Not wanting to waste time and money burning shit music onto cd.

That's fair enough, but just be careful. Most clubs don't have USB capable decks, and one problem that owners are finding is that the USB connection is the weak link as it can be broken or have a loose connection. I imagine club decks are going to suffer badly from this. And let's face it, you're still going to have carry a backup wallet of CD's just in case so it's not like you can do without CD's anyway.

I think it does come down to QC and only buying what you really need - I've never been that impulsive when it comes to buying music. I'll let it sit in my crate for a couple of days and if it still sounds good and most importantly like the sort of thing I can hear myself playing, only then I'll buy it.

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Originally posted by Ted Promo Are you certain that wherever you're gigging at has usb-enabled decks?

They don't have any decks at all. As a nice as a venue it is, any DJ is required to bring along their own gear but to be fair, the owner recognises this in his payment.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN That's fair enough, but just be careful. Most clubs don't have USB capable decks, and one problem that owners are finding is that the USB connection is the weak link as it can be broken or have a loose connection. I imagine club decks are going to suffer badly from this. And let's face it, you're still going to have carry a backup wallet of CD's just in case so it's not like you can do without CD's anyway. I think it does come down to QC and only buying what you really need - I've never been that impulsive when it comes to buying music. I'll let it sit in my crate for a couple of days and if it still sounds good and most importantly like the sort of thing I can hear myself playing, only then I'll buy it.

Yeah, I usually leave tracks in my crate for a while too. I'm just going through a bit of a weird phase with music just now and find it tiresome scouring and purchasing new music.

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