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Originally posted by Busy Child OK, i feel like venting, so Im gonna vent. Everyone has a right to an opinion, so here's my opinion. Lately, I've been seening a lot of hatred towards America in the forums coming from American citizens and it pisses me off because I feel that it is sending a negative image to people from other countries. I am not arguing the fact that a lot of things in our country does not make any sense, believe me, I KNOW. Everytime I read about someone bashing America in general, it hits me personally and I just want to say, "WTF is wrong with you?". I find a lot of times the people that bash America, are the ones with their priorities mixed up. I am not in the military, nor do any of my family members work for the government. We are not extremely wealthy and my sister and I are the only ones from my immediate family that are natural born citizens. My parents came to the United States to escape communism and since then, they have tried very hard to get us where we are today with starting off with no money. If it wasnt for this country, Id probably be living in the shitters, doing a shitty ass job after graduating from a shitty ass school. I could go on and on about this, but for all of you who talk shiet about our country, I challenge you to bash America to the face of anyone who took a bullet for your lame asses.

nobody should bash the USA! I said!

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I challenge you to bash America to the face of anyone who took a bullet for your lame asses.

err... America took a bullet for my lame ass?? I'm afraid I'm not following you here, my friend, you'll have to remind me when such event occured

I don't want to start a flame war or anything, I just state my opinion:
Americans are "hated" for many reasons by many others, just like just about every country has something about it that can be subject to hate. USA, after WW2 basicly became the most powerful (sort of) country on the planet. Now, although the patriotism is a noble feeling, showing off that feeling to "third parties" in a way "you rock - you suck" (something which you cannot deny) is sure to result reciprocial behaviour of the aforementioned third parties.

That, and the fact americans feel powerful, they are "rulers of the world". With such doctrine and belief, America DID commit many crimes, yet it always hides behind the big propaganda machine (like any other country, though). Fact is, those crimes comming from a "big" player, it gives more purpose to accuse him. And people in other countries do remember all the bad things americans did to them. And people in "unrelated" countries do tend to see such events with "unclouded" (by internal american propaganda) eyes. I'm not sure if you see my point, but anyway..

Personally, I do tend to accuse america more than I support it, but then again, don't get me wrong: I felt frustrtated as fuck and almost cried back almost a year ago, when some sick fuck killed so many people. I don't hate americans. They are people just like me, my friends, my familly. I simply tend to disaprove most of (Bush-originated) actions, and tend to find the almost defying patriotism to be wrong.. But that's just me, and that's about it...

I'm looking forward the day (which will never, alas, come) when we will all live without prejjudices and hatred.

peace out...

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When Americans bash America it's the stupid parts of America they are bashing...not America in general. There are bad parts of America like how our government makes a lot of dumb decisions and how a lot of ignorant people live here. There are also good parts how one can be free here and be successful. America is a good place indeed but it has it's share of problems, I think it's really these problems people bash.

Well, originally, this thread was aimed at Americans bashing America. Im sure all the other countries think Americans are stupid as I much as I think some other countries are as well.

But i think people should stop complaining about the little things and think about the big picture.
There are Americans here that complain about the government spying on citizens and that is understandable. It is violating our privacy. But they fail to understand the fact that there are terrorists in the country that are american citizens as well and the mexicans are smuggling muslims into america like crazy. Besides, the government have been spying on ppl since the beginning of time anyway so who cares?

But you wont have any rights to complain about once youve been blown up by a terrorist would you?

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Originally posted by k.k.d. err... America took a bullet for my lame ass?? I'm afraid I'm not following you here, my friend, you'll have to remind me when such event occured

If im not mistaken, youre from canada. You are right, American soldiers do not take bullets for Canadians.

Cheers.

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here we go again

Busy Child, you are not going to create another flamewar between Canadians and Americans.

The problem with Americans is their "we are the greatest and the best in the world"-attitude. That is why so many people hate America nowadays. I can see it here in Holland too, since Sept. 11 the hatred against the US has grown dramatically. The only thing the US cares for is ruling the world, they don't give a shit about the environment. Did you guys know that Americans use 50% of the resources that gets used in one day.... while there are only 300 million americans in this world.

and about the Americans bashing America part:

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When Americans bash America it's the stupid parts of America they are bashing...not America in general. There are bad parts of America like how our government makes a lot of dumb decisions and how a lot of ignorant people live here. There are also good parts how one can be free here and be successful. America is a good place indeed but it has it's share of problems, I think it's really these problems people bash.

read these wise words from trancedj

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I dont want to start a history debate because im sure every country has taught their students different views to every event.

Its pointless, and gets nowhere.

And I was not flaming canadians. Please read the earlier posts and maybe thatll clear things up.

Cheers.

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i think i've seen this exact thread 10 times