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geroin
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Be Cool! Amazing new discovery in the early house/ acid house music history

i posted this on tota but figured this should go in here as well:



this was shared with me by rulzz (mr. kaizen) from ta.
basically the story starts off with one guy accidentally buying a record by Charanjit Singh in a store and listening to it when he realized that it was acid house music but the record was actually from 1982 which was 5 years before when people thought the acid house music actually emerged:

it's proven in this documentary about acid house and TB 303 doc from 2005 (if you'd like to watch)



here's a part of the story:



http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/201...ingh-acid-house

Charanjit Singh doubtless stood out as unusual in the Hindi film industry of the 1960s and 70s. Veteran of countless Bollywood soundtrack orchestras, Singh was the sort to turn up at session with the latest new synthesiser, acquired at great expense from London or Singapore. He was not, however, widely regarded among his country folk as someone "pushing things forward". His band, the Charanjit Singh Orchestra, made their rupees touring weddings, performing the hits of the day, and while he played on many popular Bollywood recordings, Charanjit Singh was never a household name.

In 1982, though, Singh did something unusual. Inspired by the sound of disco imports from the west making waves among Bombay's hipster cognoscenti, he went into the studio with some new kit – a Roland Jupiter-8 keyboard, a Roland TR-808 drum machine and a Roland TB-303 – and decided to make a record that combined western dance music with the droning ragas of Indian classical music. Recorded in two days, Ten Ragas To A Disco Beat garnered some interest, excerpts finding their way on to national radio, but it was a commercial flop and was soon forgotten.

"In 2002, record collector Edo Bouman came across Ten Ragas in a a shop in Delhi. "Back at my hotel I played it on my portable player, and I was blown away. It sounded like acid house, or like an ultra-minimal Kraftwerk." But it was the date on the record that shocked Bouman. Released 1982, it predated the first acid house record – often regarded as Phuture's Acid Trax – by five years. Bouman tracked down Singh to Mumbai. "He was most friendly and surprised I knew the album. I remember asking him how he got to this acid-like sound, but he didn't quite get my point. He didn't realise how stunningly modern it was."

Eight years later, Bouman is reissuing the record on his label, Bombay Connection. Even today, it sounds like some strange kink in the dance music continuum, but Bouman is amused at speculation Ten Ragas is a hoax, cooked up by some Aphex Twin-style techno joker (the label has released Singh's conventional soundtrack work before, and besides, one can't imagine a respectable Bollywood reissue label pulling such a prank).

Now in his 70s, Singh is, as Bouman puts it, "more a musician than a talker," but he understands Ten Ragas might have been something accidentally, unusually prescient. "He made close to 10 albums, but they all were cover albums," says Bouman. "He told me, 'Frankly, this was the best thing I did. Other albums are all film songs I just played. But this was my own composition. Do something all of your own, and you can make something truly different.'"

here's the track from 1982:



if you are familiar with older productions you can clearly hear that he using TB 303 (acid baseline) TR 808 drums and Jupiter 8 synthesizer.

here's an actual interview with the guy after he was located:




this is such an incredible story to me, the early house/acid house whole history is pretty much changed now after this discovery, the fact that acid music was first invented in a way in india and not in the states like it was thought of before. You can actually now buy a repress of this very rare record now, i actually think of getting it

and another recent article in the guardian if you'd like to read more:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/201...house-ten-ragas


totally amazing!


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Nice post, good read, cheers


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I like how the interviewer is frustrated trying to show him the relevance of his song, because it seems the interviewee here is totally oblivious, or doesn't understand the smell of his own awesome.

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Very interesting read, the 303 is such a flexible sound and stands the test of time. VSTs or whatever just don't cut it. Decent record but Chicago Acid and Jack have more substance. Really does change the historic roots. India now home to Goa and Acid.

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I like how the interviewer is frustrated trying to show him the relevance of his song, because it seems the interviewee here is totally oblivious, or doesn't understand the smell of his own awesome.


Yeah I noticed that too. He's spazzing out that the guy is totally chill about it. You wonder if it was just a experimental track he really didn't consider his finest work.

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Next stop: Shlomi Aber going Indian.

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Come on guys. I knew as soon as I saw the title that this would be that Ten Ragas track.

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That article pissed me off. As SYSTEM-J said, this was news a long time ago; I already knew the story. I feel like the writer did a really bad job conveying the fact that everyone considered Acid Trax the first ever song to employ the 303 in this way, and the huge shock everyone got when the 10 Ragas release was re-discovered.

I've seen some dickheads charting this album in their monthly lists, too. I found that funny in a facepalm kind of way.


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Acid Trax wasn't even the first Chicago house record to use a TB-303. Then there's crazy shit like this:


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Acid Trax wasn't even the first Chicago house record to use a TB-303. Then there's crazy shit like this:


I know, and I never said it was. I said "in that way"; i.e. producing anything similar to the now stereotypical gurgling acid noise.

That track you posted is interesting. However, what made Acid Trax special was its purposeful, recognisable use of the 303 for something other than the basslines it was intended to create. The same can't be said of the track you posted.


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It's quite hilarious how crap Phuture are, too. Acid Trax is actually a pretty poor piece of work apart from that one sound, and they have released almost nothing interesting or notable since. One hit wonders, that's for sure. Still, I wouldn't mind Acid Trax being the one hit to my name.


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I wasn't disagreeing with you. I was pouring water further water on the notion that this track "changes acid house history".

EDIT: And of course Phuture were crap. That's the whole reason their story is more memorable, because they're a classic example of something being discovered by absolute incompetent luck.


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