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Originally posted by ezra So i recently equipped my studio. My monitors of choice were the rokit6. They're fantastic, though I'm somewhat perplexed by the bass response. The low-end really comes alive for the small woofers on certain tracks..while on others the bass is quite minimal..even though it sounds great on heads. My initial thoughts could be the room treatment, calibration..not sure, any advice/opinions would be welcome.

Throw some links of tracks that sound great on them and ones that sound bad on them.

I wouldn't have thought room treatment would be the main issue here.

I think it will be down to the fact some bass lines or low ends of tracks are around the cut of of the speakers and I think that krk's boost around the cutoff, so you'll get a full bass sound. Those below will obviously suffer considerably.

Anyone else care to back this up? Do your KRK's not have low end roll off controls? Mess with those on the bad tracks and see what happens.

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I just bought a pair of Mackie MR5 MKII's just for this issue
get a lot of guys with 5" ported monitors with bass issues

I recommend them to stuff the ports with foam, makes low end a lot tighter, that oomphy boom is no use and main cause for wrong mixing judgement

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Last edited by Raphie on Oct-23-2011 at 13:50

you get what you pay for...

RP6's are great for its price, but their low end isn't the most accurate. mostly because of how it drops off for very low frequencies.

Just do a filter sweep and listen to how certain frequencies when you are going very low are not represented even though it might show up very well audibly even though you see the dB meter in your DAW

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Originally posted by Raphie I recommend them to stuff the ports with foam, makes low end a lot tighter, that oomphy boom is no use and main cause for wrong mixing judgement

Curious as to whether I might try this, i'm using MR8's (mk1) and i'm having trouble with too much sub/low-bass coming out in my mixdowns on other systems (especially those withs subs obviously). The MR8's are rear ported and they have a lot of space behind them, so it seems to me that a lot of the low bass is dissappearing out the back of them into the void of the room behind. Would it be worth blocking up the ports in this situation or do you only recommend that for smaller monitors?

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Originally posted by Raphie I just bought a pair of Mackie MR5 MKII's just for this issue get a lot of guys with 5" ported monitors with bass issues I recommend them to stuff the ports with foam, makes low end a lot tighter, that oomphy boom is no use and main cause for wrong mixing judgement

Would you recommend doing is for HS80m's? What kind of foam?

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

the issue is surely phase cancellation for a certain frequency. Find out the tunes that sound bad. FInd the pitch of the bass. if they are the same, then the issue is a room issue and will not change with different speakers.

no speaker no matter how bad does the above. it is a room issue.

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Fuck me, not again.

Bass response problems on KRK RP6's? No shit. There's really not much point getting in to room treatment with monitors as shit as the RP6's. No, they're not "fantastic". In fact they're not even what i would call decent when compared to other market offering in the same price bracket.

Firstly, DON'T PLUG THE BASS PORT on any speakers. At least with decent speakers, the manufacturers put them there for a reason. Shoving a bit of foam in there will probably cause more problems than it solves, and in many cases will completely throw off the speaker's frequencey response - in some cases, I've seen it kill low boom, only to accent lower mid by as much as 6db. It's like trying to put out a fire with petrol.

Now, without going out to buy new monitors (recommended as your next purchase before anything else) there are a few things that you can do to tighten up the bottom end:

1, Get good speaker stands, and fill them with lead shot. You'll instantly notice a marked improvement in bass response.

2, If not on stand, then least mount them on a completely solid surface (no, a pile of books or a wooden box do not count as they actually flex). And make sure then thing is not hollow (like a breeze block etc, as it will resonate at certain frequencies).

3, Speaker placement and listening position will do more for you than anything else at no cost;

4, Moving them away from a back wall is important for rear ported speakers, but the exact distance is actually crucial in some circumstances for certain bass frequencies. read THIS for more info.

5, Make sure the speakers are equal distances away from side walls, but MAKE SURE IT IS NOT THE SAME DISTANCE FROM THE BACK WALL AS THE SIDE WALL.

6, Changing your speaker positioning will affect perceived frequency response but it has little baring on standing waves in your room (unless you're drastically changing the speaker position) as these are modal issues inherent to the room itself. So, if you change your listening position, while still maintaining the relative rules of speaker placement, you will be able to adjust your perception or exposure to standing waves and therefore have a better, more accurate reference system in place.

If your still having problems just buy some decent monitors and send some details to GIK and get them to flog you a bunch of good room treatment.