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Do any pro-level house, tech house, techno djs mix with the cross fader?

I'm talking about volume up on both channels and just using the fader to blend.

If anyone has any insights into the technical styles of any djs that one might find surpring please include anecdotal evidence in your replies. Open thread, all ideas and contributions welcome.

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I heard Kyle Hall does it

But he's no the best at mixing from what I know


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Levels is...decent...damn better than a lot of the shite dominating the charts at the moment. It sounds absolutely nothing like...a billion and one similar tracks in this big-room style. I always had a soft spot.

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I can't speak for the pros out there but in my own expeirence it's so much easier to keep the levels straight throughout your set if you mix with the crossfader set to the X curve or the slightly bowed setting. Just keep the volume sliders all the way up and adjust the gain/trim in your headphones and A/B to make sure the track you're bringing in is the same overall volume. As far as eq'ing that's just knowing your tracks.

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All I gotta say is if you have the opportunity to catch Levon Vincent spin, watch him on the decks.. I've never seen anyone work the EQ knobs like him before. Straight cuts and slams, almost mixing house like a hip hop DJ.. it was impressive.


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Firstly, why are you asking a DJing question about "producers"?

Secondly, do you mean using the crossfader as opposed to keeping it central and using the up-faders? Using the cross-fader to blend is ill-advised, because it tends to result in a volume drop during the mix.


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Secondly, do you mean using the crossfader as opposed to keeping it central and using the up-faders? Using the cross-fader to blend is ill-advised, because it tends to result in a volume drop during the mix.


you can usually compensate for volume loss pretty easily with a good setup. there are lots of occasions for unbalanced blends using the crossfader in my opinion

but yes if you want a totally smooth mix the crossfader is the thing you have to avoid touching instead of fun toy

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It's still an ugly way of blending if you ask me, because you don't have complete control over the volume of each record in the mix.


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It's still an ugly way of blending if you ask me, because you don't have complete control over the volume of each record in the mix.


you totally do that's why there are indicator dashes on the crossfader. And there's no jump or ducking in volume if you use the right curve

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for dnb dubstep is ok but i feel that with a crossfader you have half of the precision you have with 2 faders.

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If you wanted, for example, Channel 1 to be at 100% volume but Channel 2 to be at 75%, how can you do that with the cross-fader?


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If you wanted, for example, Channel 1 to be at 100% volume but Channel 2 to be at 75%, how can you do that with the cross-fader?


Percentages are an arbitrary thing when talking about loudness. You want to maintain 100% loudness overall all the time when mixing. The effect you're looking for can easily be achieved with the "constant power" or "slow fade" curve, where you can still bring in a track without lowering the volume of what's currently playing. With "intermediate" and "dipped" you do get unwanted fluctuation in volume.


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