Agreed, but I don't think it'll ever happen at insomniac.

one could argue the onstage visuals at EDC blew away Tomorrowland.... to me some medieval-type of stage design was different but not necessarily better.

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Yeah man the mainstage at EDC was the most impressive lightshow i've ever seen a youtube of. They're not slacking at all, they just have a different philosophy on production style which I think is fine. I don't think you can call one "better" than the other because it's ultimately a matter of taste.

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PS - that Dash Berlin video was shot on the 2nd biggest stage at EDC....

better to show one of the main stage videos from EDC IMO

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This will never happen in America. My best advice is to start saving and go to Belgium.

this is an easy answer Tosh.

Look at the crowd that goes to festivals in Europe, its mainly adults ( 20 years and older) where at festivals in the US, until a year ago are uneducated all ages kids (now finally its 18+) but still fresh off the box kids with no experience in EDM or know the history of it or some of the Artists that made the scene, just looking for a quick fix and place to get fkd up at. EDCs production i think is really impressive for that.

Kids in america going to festivals would no doubt want to see more flashy blinking lights then custom built huts and decor..

thats just the way it is.

There is a reason, that reason is...people are fucking stupid.

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Europe is def in a whole other ball game and we have a lot of catching up to do...Everything here in the USA is all about money ultimately...Nonetheless EDC is at least heading in the right direction

Only there's getting to be too many EDCs. It should be a special event. It being all around the country makes it less special. Other countries? Sure. Same country - no.

It's all about the benjamins.

Must go to tomorrowland before I die!

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Originally posted by bjorn niclas this is an easy answer Tosh. Look at the crowd that goes to festivals in Europe, its mainly adults ( 20 years and older) where at festivals in the US, until a year ago are uneducated all ages kids (now finally its 18+) but still fresh off the box kids with no experience in EDM or know the history of it or some of the Artists that made the scene, just looking for a quick fix and place to get fkd up at. EDCs production i think is really impressive for that. Kids in america going to festivals would no doubt want to see more flashy blinking lights then custom built huts and decor.. thats just the way it is.

I was just too lucky to be able to experience Tomorrowland, from an artist perspective and a crowd perspective (I'm not the artist, but i was there with Apsara). I have to agree with what Bjorn said, I've gotten a chance to talk to so many people that were there in the crowd, everyone is just out to have a good time and the drug used arent visible at least to me. They all look like mature clubbers to me.

From an artist and organization perspective, It is different. Mad respect for Insomniac but ID&T is by far the best at what they do at the moment, they are one of the biggest and oldest crew around. I mean the shuttle service for artist pickups and drop off is just unreal, nonstop Porsche and Mercedez Benz going back to and from the venue. Unlimited drinks for all DJs and their guests, unlimited food too. VIP treatment for everyone backstage. Artist relations are off the charts!

From an organization perspective it is crazy the way ID&T does it, every artist and artist guests have wristbands that are scannable. Every wristbands have barcodes that will show the 'access' that that person wearing is entitled too. For example, i was there as a guest for an artist, my wristbands are off limits on the stage. Also they told me that in 2010 was the first time they use the scans to locate 'missing' artists... LOL, every area that the artist access will show on their computer where is the last remaining position of such artist, also everybody that has no business being backstage will also be caught and easily thrown out.

I had a great experience with ID&T Tomorrowland, and I have to say it is unfair to compare EDC and Tomorrowland, mainly because of the crowd that goes to the festivals as Bjorn said. But there are also many things that Insomniac can learn from ID&T, but Insomniac is getting there.

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