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Vector A
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Vocal fry

"Vocal fry" is the sort of "creaky" sound that sometimes appears in a person's voice when they speak in a low-ish register. It is apparently becoming more common among young Americans:

http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencen...o-us-speec.html

And here are a couple examples:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qncr...=youtu.be&t=20s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01e8-zSLkg0&t=2m11s

Personally I find it a rather irritating sound. How about you?

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Adam420
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Re: Vocal fry

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Personally I find it a rather irritating sound. How about you?


Hate it.


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Levels is...decent...damn better than a lot of the shite dominating the charts at the moment. It sounds absolutely nothing like...a billion and one similar tracks in this big-room style. I always had a soft spot.

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Watts
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I use this a lot when I do harsh vocals.

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Joss Weatherby
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I notice it but I don't really care.

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It just comes off as pretentious to me


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Levels is...decent...damn better than a lot of the shite dominating the charts at the moment. It sounds absolutely nothing like...a billion and one similar tracks in this big-room style. I always had a soft spot.

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I don't really notice it.


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Actually I take it back. It's just her that I really dislike.

Did her show get canceled yet? I haven't seen it advertised in a few weeks.


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Lira
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Re: Vocal fry

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How about you?

That, along with uptalk, makes West Coast English really interesting. I wonder if either of them will ever become phonemic (that is, the presence or not of this creaky voice will change the meaning of the word).


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Re: Re: Vocal fry

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That, along with uptalk, makes West Coast English really interesting. I wonder if either of them will ever become phonemic (that is, the presence or not of this creaky voice will change the meaning of the word).

Uptalk already has a meaning in other English dialects? It is used to mark a sentence that is supposed to be a question? So when people use it all the time it can be kind of annoying if you are not accustomed to it? Sort of like if someone were to put a question mark at the end of every sentence regardless of whether the sentence were a question? So it seems to me what is actually happening is the de-phonemizing of uptalk by Californians?

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Re: Re: Re: Vocal fry

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Originally posted by Vector A
Uptalk already has a meaning in other English dialects? It is used to mark a sentence that is supposed to be a question? So when people use it all the time it can be kind of annoying if you are not accustomed to it? Sort of like if someone were to put a question mark at the end of every sentence regardless of whether the sentence were a question? So it seems to me what is actually happening is the de-phonemizing of uptalk by Californians?




It was hellishly hard not to read all sentences as questions. But I wouldn't say that's exactly what's going on, though I can see why people have this impression.

English doesn't rely exclusively on prosody (sentence intonation) to make questions: Word order also changes and sometimes there's the addition of specific particles (such as "do"). And, even when it does, it seems to me that the intonation doesn't rise as it does with uptalk. When you ask something, you rise until you reach the syllable before the last, when the intonation drops (unless you're surprised).

The phenomenon is actually understandable - it's not unlike back-channelling, in the sense that you make a question-like intonation in order to check if the hearer is engaged in the conversation with you.


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