The vast majority of us aren't paid enough.

Your blog entry doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Both DJs and sport players get paid according to their economic value, not some arbitrary measure.

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@woony I'm not too sure what you mean by "doesn't make sense". As with a lot of opinion pieces and columns, what I'm trying to do is raise issues and discuss things - this is indicated by my use of question marks. But I guess if I'm alluding to anything, it's that dance music - just like football - is becoming too much about the money. A lot of money. David Guetta himself even admitted to selling out and that he doesn't make this popular, formulaic music because it's what's in his heart and he loves it; he does it because it makes him money.

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Originally posted by elliehanagan But I guess if I'm alluding to anything, it's that dance music - just like football - is becoming too much about the money. A lot of money. David Guetta himself even admitted to selling out and that he doesn't make this popular, formulaic music because it's what's in his heart and he loves it; he does it because it makes him money.

The thing is, clubbing has always been about money. Large clubs can't afford to book DJs after their suspected artistic value, they have to book artists that reliably bring in the crowd. Even if the DJs have gigantic fees, the clubs still makes money which is why these DJs are getting booked.

For example, I always see people complaining that Swedish Housemafia gets so much money for being talentless hacks (which they are) but that they don't mention is that SHM brings in an ocean of people that are willing to spend outrageous amounts of money on tickets and drinks.

And this was the same in the 90s. If you're talking about sell outs, those are nothing new either.

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Originally posted by elliehanagan As with a lot of opinion pieces and columns, what I'm trying to do is raise issues and discuss things - ...

Do people with too much time on their hands make blog-posts that are missing key pieces of information?








Just trying to raise some of my own questions.

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May I ask which key pieces of information you're referring to? Ironic that your reply seems to be lacking in information. Does free speech not allow me to express my opinions? And besides, no piece of writing can ever be truly objective.

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Originally posted by Woony The thing is, clubbing has always been about money. Large clubs can't afford to book DJs after their suspected artistic value, they have to book artists that reliably bring in the crowd. Even if the DJs have gigantic fees, the clubs still makes money which is why these DJs are getting booked. For example, I always see people complaining that Swedish Housemafia gets so much money for being talentless hacks (which they are) but that they don't mention is that SHM brings in an ocean of people that are willing to spend outrageous amounts of money on tickets and drinks. And this was the same in the 90s. If you're talking about sell outs, those are nothing new either.

Clubbing may have always been about the money, but raving wasn't.

I do say in the article that huge fees are relative to the money made from ticket sales and I do understand that sell-outs aren't a new thing, but that doesn't mean I can't still address the issue.

All I'm saying is that the gap between a well-paid DJ and a new DJ is gastronomical. Surely a DJ can be well-paid and feel appreciated without earning enough to have their face emblazoned on the side of their own private jet?

Maybe it's safer for me to just stick to writing interviews and reviews...

For main acts at festivals they need to paid a number with six zero's in Euro's!!
As long as they (nearly) sell out prices won't drop. Actually they will go up for sure. Nothing new.

Actually you should know how ridiculous it can be. Robin van Persie will earn 280,000 Euro a week if he goes to Manchester City, compared to poor 87,000 Euro a week he now gets from Arsenal....

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Thing I wonder is if festivals and events sell out regardless of lineup (like, months before a lineup is even announced), can the promoters force a reduced fee on the names they bring in?

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Originally posted by elliehanagan May I ask which key pieces of information you're referring to? Ironic that your reply seems to be lacking in information. Does free speech not allow me to express my opinions? And besides, no piece of writing can ever be truly objective.

1) Key pieces of information pertain to some form of information that can be referred to outside of your article which you are using to substantiate your points (there was only one citation used) along with contextual information concerning industry practices and how they compare with other musical performing artists with citation relevant to that.

2) This isn't a free speech issue. Apart from the fact that I am also exercising free speech in taking issue with your blog-post, me taking issue with your blog-post has little to do with free speech, at all.

3) You're the one raising the issue yet you've provided relatively little information with which to base an opinion on. Honestly, you might want to read up on rhetorical strategies if you plan on continuing in this line of "work". Your blog amounts to little more than a casual notion that could have occurred to anyone and indicates no familiarity with the subject you appear to be speaking to.

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