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MIKE333ACE
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Registered: Jun 2011
Location: Aus
Hello! Getting close to finishing this track, Need some feedback for final touches

I've been working on this track for too long now and I need to get it finished, so what final touches need to be put on it?? Please give some feedback, I would really like to get a good idea of where this track is at.



Cheers,

MH

!"*"!*"*!"*"!*"*The version of this song that is currently on display is different to the one that was on display when the first 3 replies were made to this post. this is a newer and more improved version, so please let me know of what you think of this one. Cheers "*"!*"*!"*"!*"*!


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Last edited by MIKE333ACE on May-22-2012 at 14:12

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Julz
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Location: Bratislava/Melbourne

The Plucks around 1.40 are clashing with your midbass, sounds very messy.
The piano in the breakdown sounds pretty bad, you aiming for that old distorted sound?

3.40 mark the S/C pad is crappy and once the song starts up again at 4.20, your mids are screamming to be mixxed properly.

5.20 mark you keep going with the same old sound, extremly boring.

This song is unnecessarily long. Only part which is good is your breakdown.

Just move onto a new project.

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stewart.m
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the tune is all good mate but you have some mixing issues but you will only get better in time like the rest of us.

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Evolve140
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Yeah, mixing, EQ issues... bottom and mid are really muddy, the kick is just a little bump, needs to come through more. Much more, and have punch.

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MIKE333ACE
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Here is the newer and final version of it. Hope you like it better than the other one.


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Trancelover03591
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Registered: Feb 2011
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You need to be patient so you don't disappoint yourself. Six months after I started producing I sent some demos out. They were good for how long I had been producing but were not close to being professional yet (and obviously 2 years in I am still in the learning process). I was really disappointing when they were politely rejected but later realized how unrealistic it was to expect to be ready that quickly.

Your production shows promise and ability but any A&r would immediately hear lots of problems that would not be worth their time to try to work through. It takes time to be able to mix a track. I will point out right away that the drums you use are too dated and don't sound good. Even in uplifting trance, they have updated the drums they use. Here is a current uplifting track. I don't know anything about it other than that RAM is a major uplifting artist and this is a very recent release. You will notice the drums are not kick/hihat/kick/hihat/kick/hihat/kick
but more complex and modern.




Keep at it but just move your expectations back a year or two so you don't get frustrated! You are doing well for 16 or whatever it is you are.


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MIKE333ACE
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quote:
Originally posted by Trancelover03591
You need to be patient so you don't disappoint yourself. Six months after I started producing I sent some demos out. They were good for how long I had been producing but were not close to being professional yet (and obviously 2 years in I am still in the learning process). I was really disappointing when they were politely rejected but later realized how unrealistic it was to expect to be ready that quickly.

Your production shows promise and ability but any A&r would immediately hear lots of problems that would not be worth their time to try to work through. It takes time to be able to mix a track. I will point out right away that the drums you use are too dated and don't sound good. Even in uplifting trance, they have updated the drums they use. Here is a current uplifting track. I don't know anything about it other than that RAM is a major uplifting artist and this is a very recent release. You will notice the drums are not kick/hihat/kick/hihat/kick/hihat/kick
but more complex and modern.




Keep at it but just move your expectations back a year or two so you don't get frustrated!

Thanks for this. and i already have a back-up label called Daytona-Records, (if i cant get this song on any other label). however they are just a small label, so the music I publish on there barely gets any notice.

And thanks for the YouTube vid. I'm always gonna be a classic Trance fan, but I can definitely take some ideas from this track.

Cheers


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MIKE333ACE
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Originally posted by Evolve140
Yeah, mixing, EQ issues... bottom and mid are really muddy, the kick is just a little bump, needs to come through more. Much more, and have punch.

I've changed the EQ'ing on the low end quite a bit, so i hope you notice a difference in the new version of the track.


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MIKE333ACE
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Originally posted by stewart.m
the tune is all good mate but you have some mixing issues but you will only get better in time like the rest of us.

Cheers, I've tried my best with the mix down in the new version. Hope you can see an improvement.

http://soundcloud.com/mike333ace/mi...on-original-mix


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MIKE333ACE
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Registered: Jun 2011
Location: Aus

quote:
Originally posted by Julz
The Plucks around 1.40 are clashing with your midbass, sounds very messy.
The piano in the breakdown sounds pretty bad, you aiming for that old distorted sound?

3.40 mark the S/C pad is crappy and once the song starts up again at 4.20, your mids are screamming to be mixxed properly.

5.20 mark you keep going with the same old sound, extremly boring.

This song is unnecessarily long. Only part which is good is your breakdown.

Just move onto a new project.

Thanks for this. Since reading this, I've taken the sidechain out of the pad at the 3:40 mark and generally tried to fix the EQ'ing as much as possible.

Hope you notice a difference in the newer version

http://soundcloud.com/mike333ace/mi...on-original-mix


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Julz
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i listen through it and 1 major thing u need to do is cut the lows of so many sounds, and PAN!!!

The pluck midi you have near the start of the track could make a great lead with some variation, much better than the massive saw pad your using.
I'd make some kind of Jochen Miller style lead, like what he used in Red Out.

Work on your arrangement, its too long. Or bring something totally new in after 48 bars of the lead playing

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Julz
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quote:
Originally posted by Julz
i listen through it and 1 major thing u need to do is cut the lows of so many sounds, and PAN!!!

The pluck midi you have near the start of the track could make a great lead with some variation, much better than the massive saw pad your using.
I'd make some kind of Jochen Miller style lead, like what he used in Red One.

Work on your arrangement, its too long. Or bring something totally new in after 48 bars of the lead playing

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