Become a part of the TranceAddict community!Frequently Asked Questions - Please read this if you haven'tSearch the forums
TranceAddict Forums > DJing / Production / Promotion > Production Studio > Bus send delays
  Last Thread   Next Thread
Share
Author
Thread    Post A Reply
johncannons1
JDC - J Cannons



Registered: Feb 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia
Bus send delays

Hey..


Has anyone ever encountered the issue where you send stuff to a bus in logic e.g drums and they end up all delayed.

It has been happening more and more and at the start of the track when I initally start It doesnt happen then all of a sudden It will be delayed only by a very tiny fraction but it doesnt sound as tight...

JC


___________________
quote:
Originally posted by davedresden
it's a good thing your tits have no bearing on the outcome of my career

JDC
JDC Website
JDC Facebook
JDC Soundcloud
J Cannons Facebook
J Cannons Soundcloud

Old Post Aug-09-2013 04:58  Australia
Click Here to See the Profile for johncannons1 Click here to Send johncannons1 a Private Message Visit johncannons1's homepage! Add johncannons1 to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Looney4Clooney
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Apr 2010
Location:

could you elaborate. The way you describe the issue seems like the way you would want it to be which is not the case.


___________________
"This is why Superman works alone." GC
old stuff from days gone by (2001-2004)
Mad For Brad's gay little contest

Old Post Aug-09-2013 19:46 
Click Here to See the Profile for Looney4Clooney Click here to Send Looney4Clooney a Private Message Add Looney4Clooney to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
itsamemario
Divine Angel



Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Mushroom Kingdom

it's caused by latency in one of the effects you have on the bus.
try rendering. the rendering algorithms usually are tighter and arent really prone to this problem, as playback is.


___________________
BA-DUM-TSS


quote:

ALFI - BOHICA - DJ MIX (Stream+Dropbox)

Old Post Aug-11-2013 18:30  Norway
Click Here to See the Profile for itsamemario Click here to Send itsamemario a Private Message Visit itsamemario's homepage! Add itsamemario to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Looney4Clooney
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Apr 2010
Location:

logic has plugin latency compensation.


___________________
"This is why Superman works alone." GC
old stuff from days gone by (2001-2004)
Mad For Brad's gay little contest

Old Post Aug-12-2013 05:10 
Click Here to See the Profile for Looney4Clooney Click here to Send Looney4Clooney a Private Message Add Looney4Clooney to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
meriter
-



Registered: May 2009
Location:

i think i might know what this is, i had issues similar with the way I was sidechaining things... i'd just route the kick to a send at 0.0 and select that bus as the input in the compressor.. after a while logic just started to fall apart with this method, different results with dif i/o buffer settings. I don't know if that's what your problem is but yeah thats all i got

Old Post Aug-12-2013 05:41 
Click Here to See the Profile for meriter Click here to Send meriter a Private Message Add meriter to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
johncannons1
JDC - J Cannons



Registered: Feb 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia

So whats happening is:


I wanted to limit my percs so I sent my claps, my kick, my snare, my hats etc (these are all on different channels) to one AUX channel and put some waves comp and L3 limiter.

it made the percs sound nice and all of that BUT a few days into the project I noticed some timing things when I was playing the percs and the metronome.

so I took off the Limiter and compressor. it was still there.

I took off all those sends and just left each channel how they were with there output being Stereo 1-2 and it fixed eveyrthing up.

I thought it might have been my comp or something but maybe its a bug in logic because other projects I have done with the same setup dont usually have this problem (except It has happened once before).


___________________
quote:
Originally posted by davedresden
it's a good thing your tits have no bearing on the outcome of my career

JDC
JDC Website
JDC Facebook
JDC Soundcloud
J Cannons Facebook
J Cannons Soundcloud

Old Post Aug-15-2013 05:36  Australia
Click Here to See the Profile for johncannons1 Click here to Send johncannons1 a Private Message Visit johncannons1's homepage! Add johncannons1 to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
johncannons1
JDC - J Cannons



Registered: Feb 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia

quote:
Originally posted by itsamemario
it's caused by latency in one of the effects you have on the bus.
try rendering. the rendering algorithms usually are tighter and arent really prone to this problem, as playback is.


What do you mean by rendering it? bouncing it to audio ?


___________________
quote:
Originally posted by davedresden
it's a good thing your tits have no bearing on the outcome of my career

JDC
JDC Website
JDC Facebook
JDC Soundcloud
J Cannons Facebook
J Cannons Soundcloud

Old Post Aug-15-2013 05:37  Australia
Click Here to See the Profile for johncannons1 Click here to Send johncannons1 a Private Message Visit johncannons1's homepage! Add johncannons1 to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
derail
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Feb 2007
Location: Canberra, Australia

quote:
Originally posted by johncannons1
What do you mean by rendering it? bouncing it to audio ?


That's how I understand it. But yeah, if it's not a plugin causing the delay I don't know that this would help. It might be interesting to see if the delay is still there after bouncing down to audio, but it still doesn't solve the problem - you want it to sound right while you're working on it!

Old Post Aug-15-2013 05:55  Australia
Click Here to See the Profile for derail Click here to Send derail a Private Message Add derail to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
meriter
-



Registered: May 2009
Location:

quote:
Originally posted by johncannons1

so I took off the Limiter and compressor. it was still there.

I took off all those sends and just left each channel how they were with there output being Stereo 1-2 and it fixed eveyrthing up.


weird... no idea

Old Post Aug-15-2013 08:15 
Click Here to See the Profile for meriter Click here to Send meriter a Private Message Add meriter to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
DJ RANN
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: May 2001
Location: Hollywood....

quote:
Originally posted by johncannons1
So whats happening is:


I wanted to limit my percs so I sent my claps, my kick, my snare, my hats etc (these are all on different channels) to one AUX channel and put some waves comp and L3 limiter.

it made the percs sound nice and all of that BUT a few days into the project I noticed some timing things when I was playing the percs and the metronome.

so I took off the Limiter and compressor. it was still there.

I took off all those sends and just left each channel how they were with there output being Stereo 1-2 and it fixed eveyrthing up.

I thought it might have been my comp or something but maybe its a bug in logic because other projects I have done with the same setup dont usually have this problem (except It has happened once before).


There's a couple of things it could be.

The first is that certain plugins induce latency which is exacerbated when routed to an Aux. Certain waves plugs are guilty of this.

Do you have plugin delay compensation setup in Logic?

Read here for how to do it:

http://documentation.apple.com/en/l...=3%26tasks=true

One way to troubleshoot is to remove each plugin one by one and see if one in particular is the culprit.

You're also going to want to check if you latency compensation is set to ALL rather than TRACKS & INSTRUMENTS.

Let me know if this helps otherwise I'll try to think of something else.

Old Post Aug-15-2013 19:35 
Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RANN Click here to Send DJ RANN a Private Message Add DJ RANN to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
evo8
Virtual Wannabe



Registered: Aug 2004
Location:

sounds like a bug of some sort - thats a good suggestion to try other plugins on the AUX tracks and see if the issue happens with them also


___________________
hearthis
soundcloud
youtube

Old Post Aug-16-2013 00:25  Ireland
Click Here to See the Profile for evo8 Click here to Send evo8 a Private Message Visit evo8's homepage! Add evo8 to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
johncannons1
JDC - J Cannons



Registered: Feb 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia

Thanks all for your responses. I will have to check the latency compensation and see what I come back with. hope thats it because I like sending things to busses haha!


___________________
quote:
Originally posted by davedresden
it's a good thing your tits have no bearing on the outcome of my career

JDC
JDC Website
JDC Facebook
JDC Soundcloud
J Cannons Facebook
J Cannons Soundcloud

Old Post Aug-21-2013 05:39  Australia
Click Here to See the Profile for johncannons1 Click here to Send johncannons1 a Private Message Visit johncannons1's homepage! Add johncannons1 to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message

TranceAddict Forums > DJing / Production / Promotion > Production Studio > Bus send delays
Post New Thread    Post A Reply

 
Last Thread   Next Thread
Click here to listen to the sample!Pause playbackTrack from CJ Stone set [2002] [7]

Click here to listen to the sample!Pause playbackAndre Visior - "Speed Up" (Lovstruck 2002) [2002]

Show Printable Version | Subscribe to this Thread
Forum Jump:

All times are GMT. The time now is 17:01.

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is ON
vB code is ON
[IMG] code is ON
 
Search this Thread:

 
Contact Us - return to tranceaddict

Powered by: Trance Music & vBulletin Forums
Copyright ©2000-2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Privacy Statement / DMCA
Support TA!