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Lagrangian
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Cameron splits Tory Party, U.K recognizes Gay Marriage:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...riage-vote.html

My views: How can the Tory party of today reconcile two different, yet conflicting, ideas of England? It seems rather hypocritical of them to vote against gay marriage, when figureheads such as King James 1 and the George Villiers were homosexuals themselves?


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Was King James really a homosexual or does every historical figure get the gay lens at some point?

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THIS.

There was a great article in the economist about how British politicians are desperately studying Obama's election strategies, and social inclusivity was one of the strongest themes.

It's all a bit of a principle only point anyway, as same sex couples have been able to do a civil partnership for nearly 10 years, which affords nearly all the same rights as marriage (apart from peerage passing to the partner and some slight ceremony/religious limitations etc).

While I think it's good for equality on the whole, I kind of have a feeling the G&L community are being played by this; it looks like a progressive move by Cameron but really he's just interested in garnering votes from a community that has historically never been tory voters.

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quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
THIS.

There was a great article in the economist about how British politicians are desperately studying Obama's election strategies, and social inclusivity was one of the strongest themes.

It's all a bit of a principle only point anyway, as same sex couples have been able to do a civil partnership for nearly 10 years, which affords nearly all the same rights as marriage (apart from peerage passing to the partner and some slight ceremony/religious limitations etc).

While I think it's good for equality on the whole, I kind of have a feeling the G&L community are being played by this; it looks like a progressive move by Cameron but really he's just interested in garnering votes from a community that has historically never been tory voters.


More likely he's looking for votes from heterosexual voters that refuse to vote for a party that restricts human rights. You're right that he'd be a little foolish to hope for homosexual votes when they've historically shunned the Tories.


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well it really works both ways

long term relationship gays are happy - they get legally tied up

less free floating gays... win for people who want less random gay relationships bringing more queers into the fold. (pun) (and STD risks although that was so 10-20 years ago)

hell even HIV has a preventative cure now.


None the less....

it is just the "western standard"

These laws have come in in other English Speaking countries that the UK is orbiting with.

Canada just trumped the civil union stuff, with "divorce" allowance for gay couples. Now they can get married AND break up.


Then there is the whole EU equality factor.

No man can be an island.

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