but seriously, this is bad. and not just bad music. a bad precedent, what next? quivver would have been the last to have sold his soul i'd have thought...
blackhole enterprises must have wafted that cash in boom Q's face. bloody parasites.
why tarnish quivver? his name doesn't mean jack shit to the commercial crowd - and the tune itself is a turd - anyone could have made it. so, what is the logic here?!
Jul-04-2013 10:33
Syntonic
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I'm kind of surprised this didn't happen earlier. Not sure why he doesn't use his real name though.
the whole idea of "selling out" is so odd to me, like everybody has to do something for work. And for all you know this is what he's wanted to do all along, maybe he was actually selling out with the dark prog when there was an audience for it. Would you feel better if he quit music and got a job at an insurance company? How is that any different? I just don't get it. Generally the people who complain about their favorite bands or artists selling out work for fucking walmart
Jul-04-2013 11:04
Syntonic
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quote:
Originally posted by meriter
I really don't blame him at all, if anyone deserves it, it's him. He's been in the game for a long time.
selling out is pandering to the masses - compromising (usually severely) on artistic integrity and creativity in exchange for that almighty dollar.
you probably don't have a good concept of it, as it is the american way, so i will forgive you.
Jul-04-2013 11:13
netroM
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wtf'd at "DJ SANDRA COLLINS" jail pic in the intro
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Jul-04-2013 12:03
Woony
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Location: Berlin
He can sell out all he wants to, he will never get big with this shit because you can get a young hip kid that's infinitely more marketable than some old fart to produce the exact same drivel. Seriously, this thing isn't even going to make any money. Even Tiesto and Guetta only get away with marketing to college bros because they've been doing junk for so long.
Originally posted by rubez
selling out is pandering to the masses - compromising (usually severely) on artistic integrity and creativity in exchange for that almighty dollar.
you probably don't have a good concept of it, as it is the american way, so i will forgive you.
You are basing this on the assumption that he is not enjoying what he's doing, just because you don't like it. Get out of your own head. Sometimes people have broad tastes, like maybe he didn't want to write the same track for 20 years? I like swedish math metal, I also like the gayest house music imaginable. Very different ends of the spectrum. It's not selling out if you want to do more than one thing. And for all you know he's keeping it real under a different name (which you've never heard cause no one cares). The name is whats slapped on this product, i wouldnt be surprised if he had nothing to do with the production at all and just got paid to show up and douche out on video. Really the whole artistic integrity thing... are you in high school? Talk to me about not understanding how things work, what an ass. And just cause I live in america too. I'd love to see how your idea of artistic integrity holds up in the face of raising a child, or any of the other very real things that cost very real money. Trust me just cause I live in america doesn't mean I don't have a grasp of the natural world. My dream job would be to bang chicks all day but they aren't handing out those types of gigs.
Of course he might've just wanted a new car
Another thing... artists only have so much steam. Like a person only has so much to say. Are you implying he hasn't paid his dues? You want the same prog track over and over again forever? I agree the song is bullshit but everyone has to do something awful for money unless you are extremely lucky. And it's never the responsibility of the artist to appease their fans, ever.
Jul-04-2013 12:08
Mattsanity
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Quivver has earned his stripes in the industry as one of the most talented producers ever. He has nothing left to prove. Whatever he does from here on out should have no affect on his legacy.
