for me it was that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Byl7JYiQFK0

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Originally posted by clay doing things for others to make yourself feel better is bad karma. nothing more egoistic than doing the shit U2 does.

Amen.

I actually do a fair amount of things for other people, because some people gave me breaks in this life and I wouldn't have what I have if it were not for those people and their acts of selflessness.

Pay it forward.

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Originally posted by clay doing things for others to make yourself feel better is bad karma. nothing more egoistic than doing the shit U2 does. there's only one worse act and that's forgiveness.

What the fuck?

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Originally posted by wotyzoid What the fuck?

Which bit?

Forgiveness is bad now? Jesus.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Which bit?

The entire Ayn Rand cockery.

Why can't we critique charity as being of selfish significance on the benefactor's behalf, and leave it at that? Suddenly we live in a world where everyone must only focus on themselves to make everything better for everyone? It's privileged logic that people with most every advantage from birth are idiotic enough to espouse.

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Daily. I expect nothing in return.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Why can't we critique charity as being of selfish significance on the benefactor's behalf, and leave it at that? Suddenly we live in a world where everyone must only focus on themselves to make everything better for everyone? It's privileged logic that people with most every advantage from birth are idiotic enough to espouse.

I disagree. You being incapable of altruism doesn't mean everybody is, and there's plenty of people who have nothing who still dedicate their lives to helping others.

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Originally posted by OrangestO This isn't about physics, this is about waves.

Ok, but you're not disagreeing with me. I was criticizing objectivism.

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Ahh, missed the part of the selfish significance being on the benefactor and not the altruist.

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Originally posted by OrangestO This isn't about physics, this is about waves.

I maintain my disagreement though

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Originally posted by OrangestO This isn't about physics, this is about waves.

I won't lie I'm an asshole, I help people who I want to help when I want to help them. I don't do much random good out of the kindness of my heart. On the plus side, I spoil those I love.