ok pplz...i've been a major fan of trance for years, i have built up a large collection of vinyls which i don't mix, i just listen 2 em on a record player and rip em to my comp.......i feel the time has come for me 2 get involved in the DJ'ing side of things, i have put 2getha some money and found a very good deal for a beginner (all pioneer equipment) and the guy at the store is giving me a good deal cauz i alwayz get my vinyls from him. But there is one problem......once i get my decks, i'll have all my vinyls, but i'll have no idea where 2 start!! im a guy with a great in-depth knowledge of trance muzik, but no idea when it comes to mixing. Where did all of u guyz learn??, none of my mates can mix either so not much good there......i really need help guyz!!

J:SiN

ok my 2 cents...

before buying your setup, consider this.

-is this something you really want to do?(coz hell, djing is one expensive hobby) because it gets hella frustrating learning to beatmatch starting out and its gonna make you wanna pull your hair out and give up (i know coz i've been there before and i still have lots to learn)

ok how much money$$$ do you have with you right now? one more thing i dont get, i know that pioneer make mixers but not turntables/CDJ (not sure though) anyways, if you really want to to this and you have the dough$$$$$, i'd recommend getting technic turntables (you wont regret!!!!) or if you are short on dough$$ you can try looking at the stanton str-80 i believe. As far as the mixer/headphones/etc goes you dont have to worry for now...YOU NEED GOOD DECKS!(Direct drive not belt driven!!)


back to your question...I learned mixing by myself (none of my friens are DJs, but one just bought his setup) If you are really willing to dj, no matta how hard mixing can be at first you'll make it..if you need more help just ask...peace

my 2 cents

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I went through this same thing, my friend had decks for about a year before me, and after seeing it done in action i needed my own. I started with only 3 records. It was extremely frustrating for the first 3 months. After that you start seeing results and you know you cant give up because every day you get better. The only problem is, musicaddict is completly right, fucking expensive hobby. I blew about $2500 dollars on records within the last 8 months. Buying records becomes like buying crack. Im at the recordshop seriously every week stocking up on all the new stuff. But fuck it, its the music that matters right? Do it.

Edit: oh btw, if your not sure if you want to get into it or not, dont start off with technics, buy those when you know your committed to it. I started off with 2 gemini 500's. and a piece of shit gemini mixer. For begginers its perfect. You dont need expensive equipment to learn how to spin.

I pretty much taught myself. Its a rocky road without anyone helping you but its worth definately worth it in the end

check this GREAT site out, it'll teach you all the basics and some advanced stuff too

http://www.recess.co.uk/

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i was lucky enough to become really good friends with a local dj, and with his guidance and a lot of practice, i finally got it

get to know the local djs... head out to the nightclubs that have vinyl djs playing and watch and learn
then take what you saw and go home and apply it

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I did the same as Jace. I just bought a set up and taught myself. You figure it out pretty quickly

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try this
its pretty good

http://music.hyperreal.org/dj/AVH/Basics.html#beat

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I'll go with the majority here.

If you want to mix, by all means, get some tables, and start doing it. There's nothing worse than regret. True, you may not like it, but at least you tried.

I agree with DJErnieP. Getting cheaper tables is actually a good thing. I was afraid to drop $800 for a pair of Tech 12s, so I looked around on Ebay, and found a pair of Gemini PT-1000s. I bought the pair for $150. I purchased about 5 records and practiced for days/weeks/months. My record collection was growing quickly. I could see myself improving, and decided that I was taking this seriously, so I took the next step. I sold my Gemini's (still love those things), and went to the local music store to upgrade to premium tables I'm still glad I did it gradually, its tough to drop almost a grand on something you're not sure of.

I say go for it, just remember to be patient with yourself!

well.. you said you have a knowledge of trance music... and already have records. that means:
a) you know your records
b) you know how the music flows
c) you can flow *with* the music

well hell man! that's the hard part right there. you can pick up the technical skills as you go.

beatmatching isn't half as hard as people make it out to be.. it just takes patience.

how did we learn to DJ??
1) PRACTICE
a) patience
b) FEELING the music
c) more patience and humility

go for it man.. there's nothing like getting the crowd to move and making a clean transition.. it's a RUSH.

-mer

I think the greatest skill in djing is knowing your music like the guy above me said.
You can have the sickest vinyl collection but if you dont know the right places to mix in and mix out, youre worthless.

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It's just a matter of answering one question
Are you willing to dedicate your invaluable time, your money and effort to this?
There has to be no doubt in your mind if you want to progress forward with this thing. My biggest mistake, and at the same time best thing I've ever done was starting to DJ. I've only spun for about 10 months, and I'm at the point where a mix CD should guarantee me a spot at my local raves because of my knowledge of my scene, people and music.
And the people who say that it's expensive aren't exaggerating. And the people who say that it's an addiction can't be closer to the truth. Buying records is the SAME EXACT addictive mechanism as drugs. You think heroin addicts have it bad financially? Try being a college kid being paid minimum wage and starting to break in the scene. Your wallet and bank account will get ravaged mercilessly.
But the pay off is awesome, or so I heard....

I have to agree with everybody above me...

DJ-ing is really, really expensive, but on the other hand, really, really great...

Just remember that practise is the way to learn it. That's how I tought myself to beatmatch, and it has worked for me.

And whatever you do, don't give up. Keep trying and trying, untill you're really sick of it. Then take a 5 minute break (ok, make it 10 if you please...) and then start again, and again...

It will take a lot of time and money, but believe me, you'll forget all about it as soon as you have made your first succesfull mix.

There is a Dutch saying, that goes like this: "Lang nadat de prijs van de inspanning is vergeten, wordt het resultaat nog herinnerd".

It means something like: "Long after the money and the effort you put in is forgotten, you'll always remember the result".

Sorry about my English, how's your Dutch?