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TranceElevation
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Armin Van Buuren - Sail

What do you think of it? Imo that track is massively underrated.
It has been exposed to the mass so many tend to dismiss it.

That melody is trance in its purest form. A great trippy, melodic, deep, warm, dynamic piece of pure trance music at 136 bpm.

Produced in 2006. A period where the loudness war was starting to make victims, yet for some reason, that track was absolved from such fate.

Only now when I started being more careful to loudness, dynamics, warmth etc. I realize how amazing and special that track is.


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kosmotika
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I've only heard Carl B's remix, but I think for a newer piece, it's definitely among the good ones.


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It's just typical of his productions around that same period of time: a generic, by the numbers version of the same euphoric bangers he was playing on ASOT and featuring on his ASOT compilations.

Most Armin productions in general sound like the kind of perfunctory thing someone of his status (and, at that time, greatly increasing popularity) is just expected to do every few months. Make a track, get it done, get back to business.


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Light The Fuse
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nah its pretty crap. i agree with the above comment. and he didn't get it done better than shivers imo.

and both of them are not anywhere near melody trance in its 'purest form' - just some nice easy chord progressions extrapolated to the sound of the time.


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JonDC
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I was a massive Armin fan back then but I've always thought this track was terrible. Hi made it to open his very first Armin Only concert and in my opinion he was just trying to copy Tiesto's Adagio for Strings, which he opened the first TIC with.

Mind you, it's a lot better than what he is up to these days

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Lews
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Actually not bad until the two minute mark when the melody comes in that is, as Jon notes, a blatant attempt to copy the sound/vibe of 'Adagio for Strings.' Except he adds those shitty seagull sounds over the breakdown to make it fishy or exotic or appeal to blue collar listeners or some bullshit. Fucking minute and a half breakdown, too. SO EMOTIVE. So boring. Completely unnecessary second breakdown, too, with more shitty seagull sounds, and some unpleasant distortion. Not a good song.


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Mr.Mystery
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I've never even heard this one, actually. That I know of, anyway.

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Trance-M
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Originally posted by Lews
Actually not bad until the two minute mark when the melody comes in that is, as Jon notes, a blatant attempt to copy the sound/vibe of 'Adagio for Strings.'


Indeed, that made me dislike it.


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Mr.Mystery
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quote:
Originally posted by Robotrance
there are only two decent avb tracks:
- Virgo
- Pound (feat Mike)

Armin's done plenty of decent work, just not in the last decade or so.

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kosmotika
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Just had a listen to the original mix...very generic. Another track I might download for an occasional listen but end up skipping whenever it comes on...

quote:
Originally posted by Robotrance
there are only two decent avb tracks:
- Virgo
- Pound (feat Mike)

He's got a decent body of work imo but most of anything he's made in the last 10 years has been trash and despite his claim to love trance he's done more to harm it than anyone else.
Tiesto and Corsten have both quit trance and are now having to play small clubs again, but Armin's got longevity with his fans...so he could revitalize the whole thing now if he wanted to, but the thing is, he doesn't. People piss on guys like Tiesto for leaving, but I have more respect for guys like him who say "I'm just not into trance anymore" instead of guys like Armin who quite literally record themselves rhythmically farting, speed it up a bit, hire some sappy pop vocalist to come sing about summertime or lost love or some bullshit and then sell it off as a PROPA MASSIVE TRANCE CHOON!!!!


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Trance-M
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At least he lets some guys make decent uplifting remixes of a shitty original:
Armin van Buuren feat. Aruna - Won't Let You Go (Ian Standerwick Remix)


Ian Standerwick made some banging remixes by the way.


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Armin has said on multiple occassions that he doesn't like the music he plays, but the crowds do. He admits he's a sellout. Can't hate on that.


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