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kyl33
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How is this song trance?

Alright, so I'm just now starting the understand the dance music genres and the differences between them (at least a little, haha). I spent a couple hours on this site yesterday just to understand the differences between house and trance music:
http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/
From my understanding, house music is influenced by disco and dub music and is a variation/mix of the two. It has a defined 4/4 time signature and a lot of it is melodic.
Trance music is influenced by industrial (experimental) rock and disco and is a variation/mix of the two. The music is a lot more abstract and it seems to be a lot less defined than house. There isn't much of a melody either. It's meant to "get lost" in.
If I'm correct, then why did someone label this song as trance when it has a defined 4/4 time signature and is melodic? It sounds like 90s eurodance house to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlgOZllmyLk

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Re: How is this song trance?

Listen to lots and lots of tracks labelled as house music, then lots and lots of tracks labelled as trance music. You'll get the hang of it.


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Sykonee
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A lot of early '90s eurodance was influenced by trance at the time, especially since (mostly German) trance producers would make eurodance tunes on the side for extra coin.


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kyl33
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Originally posted by Sykonee
A lot of early '90s eurodance was influenced by trance at the time, especially since (mostly German) trance producers would make eurodance tunes on the side for extra coin.

Thanks for the informative answer. So the lines between the two genres in the 90s were blurred?

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kosmotika
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I might put this a little closer to a niche genre called "hands up" which is basically ultra cheesy hard trance with some eurodance elements tossed in. Usually features a pitched bass, sharp supersaw lead, a much punchier kick drum, etc but contains a more "cheerful" melody than most hard trance productions...


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Sykonee
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I always figured 'hands up' was the popification of hardstyle. Then again, hard trance and hardstyle really started blurring in the mid-'00s. It's all just one big mush of vvwommpa-vvwommpa-vvwommpa anyway.


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Sykonee
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quote:
Originally posted by kyl33
Thanks for the informative answer. So the lines between the two genres in the 90s were blurred?

I wouldn't say they were blurred - more like eurodance nicked elements of trance for its own use. Put another way, no way in Hell would you see a eurodance track appear on Harthouse, MFS, or Suck Me Plasma, but you'd definitely find a Trance Remix on a number of eurodance singles.


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quote:
Originally posted by Sykonee
I always figured 'hands up' was the popification of hardstyle. Then again, hard trance and hardstyle really started blurring in the mid-'00s. It's all just one big mush of vvwommpa-vvwommpa-vvwommpa anyway.

You're pretty much right. Modern hardstyle is fairly popular in my area and it's pretty weak these days; it's basically watered down hard trance except the kick is an over distorted DOING DOING DOING DOING sound.


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Sykonee
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See, I thought the doing-doing-doingiddity-doing stuff was jumpstyle. 'Cause sure do feel like jumping around like Tigger while it plays.


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Re: How is this song trance?

trance is getting more poppy......it's a real skill to be able to make well made melodic trance.

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Re: How is this song trance?

quote:
Originally posted by kyl33
Alright, so I'm just now starting the understand the dance music genres and the differences between them (at least a little, haha). I spent a couple hours on this site yesterday just to understand the differences between house and trance music:
http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/
From my understanding, house music is influenced by disco and dub music and is a variation/mix of the two. It has a defined 4/4 time signature and a lot of it is melodic.
Trance music is influenced by industrial (experimental) rock and disco and is a variation/mix of the two. The music is a lot more abstract and it seems to be a lot less defined than house. There isn't much of a melody either. It's meant to "get lost" in.
If I'm correct, then why did someone label this song as trance when it has a defined 4/4 time signature and is melodic? It sounds like 90s eurodance house to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlgOZllmyLk


trance is also 4/4

the bpm, cheesy synth's etc give it away as "trance" I guess


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i think "Commercial" is when peple advertise things in between the music, like local radios, and "mainstream" is when there is uninterrupted music on a radio, i.e like Digitally Imported streams

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It would be best to listen what you like best and try to find similar patterns. Experience plays a bigger role then just relying on others classification

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