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VICE Special Report: Killing Cancer

Clinical trials are filmed, where various viruses (Measles, HIV, etc.) are used to kill/suppress cancer cells:

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Yeah I heard about this awhile back

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i cant wait til they commercialise the treatments so the OP can cry about how evil medical corporations are.


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I heard pkc's tears cure cancer. Too bad he never cries.


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i cant wait til they commercialise the treatments so the OP can cry about how evil medical corporations are.


not sure where big pharma or med corps play here, it's really just administering a known virus directly into the cancerous tumors, i get someone has to manufacture the virus but the real play here are the doctors who are administering the procedure as most if not all targeted areas require precision. that being said, i couldn't be awake and hear someone drilling into my skull to inject something into a tumor in my brain


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not sure where big pharma or med corps play here, it's really just administering a known virus directly into the cancerous tumors


Oh yeah, piece of cake. I'm sure.

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Oh yeah, piece of cake. I'm sure.


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but the real play here are the doctors who are administering the procedure as most if not all targeted areas require precision.


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This is not really something new. The problem with this sort of technology is that we still do not fully understand why certain genes end up producing cancer or as to why cancer-cell inhibiting enzyme stop working. Neither do we know how to target these types of cells specifically. Second of all, most of these mechanisms are extremely toxic for the body - reason why epigenetics has not been able to be fully integrated in this field of research.

Further more, if I'm not mistaken, our oncologi-professor used to say that another big problem is the neoformation vessels which occur together with a malignant tumor.

Too bad the video can't be viewed in my country.

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Too bad the video can't be viewed in my country.


That's very unfortunate. I hope you can find it elsewhere, as I think it's recommended viewing for everyone.

The clinical trials seem to be in the early phases, which is why not many people have been treated yet. So far, however, some have went into full remission and lives were saved (they seemed to have tried every other possible method and have been told death may be imminent). I certainly hope the various doctors and hospitals get funded for further clinical trials and G-d willing more and more lives can be saved.


If you haven't seen it yet, this documentary also features, among others, the girl who was treated for Leukemia with a "disabled form of H.I.V." that was featured on the front page of the New York Times, back in December 2012:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/10/h...?pagewanted=all

"It is hard to believe, but last spring Emma, then 6, was near death from leukemia. She had relapsed twice after chemotherapy, and doctors had run out of options."

"To perform the treatment, doctors remove millions of the patient’s T-cells — a type of white blood cell — and insert new genes that enable the T-cells to kill cancer cells. The technique employs a disabled form of H.I.V. because it is very good at carrying genetic material into T-cells. The new genes program the T-cells to attack B-cells, a normal part of the immune system that turn malignant in leukemia."

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That's very unfortunate. I hope you can find it elsewhere, as I think it's recommended viewing for everyone.

The clinical trials seem to be in the early phases, which is why not many people have been treated yet. So far, however, some have went into full remission and lives were saved (they seemed to have tried every other possible method and have been told death may be imminent). I certainly hope the various doctors and hospitals get funded for further clinical trials and G-d willing more and more lives can be saved.


If you haven't seen it yet, this documentary also features, among others, the girl who was treated for Leukemia with a "disabled form of H.I.V." that was featured on the front page of the New York Times, back in December 2012:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/10/h...?pagewanted=all

"It is hard to believe, but last spring Emma, then 6, was near death from leukemia. She had relapsed twice after chemotherapy, and doctors had run out of options."

"To perform the treatment, doctors remove millions of the patient’s T-cells — a type of white blood cell — and insert new genes that enable the T-cells to kill cancer cells. The technique employs a disabled form of H.I.V. because it is very good at carrying genetic material into T-cells. The new genes program the T-cells to attack B-cells, a normal part of the immune system that turn malignant in leukemia."


Yea, read about that. It was great for the scientific community. Here's a nice article on the market of medication in the US:

http://www.the-scientist.com/?artic.../Lazarus-Drugs/

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I was talking to an anesthesiologist at the hospital roughly a year ago who said that according to a friend of his working for Astra Zeneca, cancer will explode to the degree where roughly 1/3 people will have it.

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I was talking to an anesthesiologist at the hospital roughly a year ago who said that according to a friend of his working for Astra Zeneca, cancer will explode to the degree where roughly 1/3 people will have it.


I just read this: "In the US, men have a 1 in 2 lifetime risk of developing cancer, and for women the risk is 1 in 3."

http://www.thomlatimercares.org/Cancer_Facts.htm

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