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ali92
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Fishtown, Philadelphia
Question My Disk Defrag. doesn't do a good job! Help!

I have a question:

Why doesn't the Disk Defragmenter in Windows XP Pro work well for me? I defrag and afterwards, analyse the disk using Disk Defragmenter and it still comes up like the whole disk is still fragmented! I always run CHKDSK (It used to be called ScanDisk in older Windows versions) immediately before running Disk Defragmenter and my system's HDD's contents are not changing during the defragmentation process. Is there anything that I can do to make it defrag properly? Thanks!

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jp
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Holland

Yes, I know your problem. Do you have a small (10-20gig) HD?

There's almost no difference between before defrag. and after.

The pc does feel a bit faster though...

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ali92
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Fishtown, Philadelphia

quote:
Originally posted by jploveparade
Yes, I know your problem. Do you have a small (10-20gig) HD?

There's almost no difference between before defrag. and after.

The pc does feel a bit faster though...

It's a 18.6 GB (~20 000 000 000 bytes) drive. Why isn't there any difference? I thought defrag makes all files contiguous. I still have files with hundreds or thousands of fragments.

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DjJade
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Registered: Oct 2002
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i think that it doesnt do much because some files that are being used for windows at the moment cant be moved. try pressing f8 before you get into the windows loading screen while booting...if you dont know when just rpess it alot but dont keep it pressed it should be somewhere between your computers first screen and the windows xp screen. anyway, tell it to boot into safemode with command prompt. and then in the cmd type in "defrag c: -v" and that should do it...this way you can defrag your computer with minimal files being used. it takes a while so be aware of that. i leave it defragging while im at a long days worth of classes or while i sleep. when it is done, there will be a prompt for a new command and then you can just reboot. good luck let me know if it doesnt work.

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flystyler
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Registered: Jun 2001
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Yeah it maybe a good idea to set up scan disk and the defragment program to do its bit before it loads into windows.

Otherwise invest in a program like norton system works, or fix it, both with defrag progs


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Lira
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Format C:

You won't have this kind of problem anymore


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flystyler
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quote:
Originally posted by Maaz
Format C:

You won't have this kind of problem anymore


Thats like telling someone to smack themselves very hard over the leg if they have a headache. Stops u thinking about the headache.


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jon
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Leeds

how partition type u using? fat32 or ntfs? and the reason why it may not be defragging properley as you swap file (virtual memory) could be on the disk and that cant be moved about as it is in constent use.


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ali92
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quote:
Originally posted by DjJade
i think that it doesnt do much because some files that are being used for windows at the moment cant be moved. try pressing f8 before you get into the windows loading screen while booting...if you dont know when just rpess it alot but dont keep it pressed it should be somewhere between your computers first screen and the windows xp screen. anyway, tell it to boot into safemode with command prompt. and then in the cmd type in "defrag c: -v" and that should do it...this way you can defrag your computer with minimal files being used. it takes a while so be aware of that. i leave it defragging while im at a long days worth of classes or while i sleep. when it is done, there will be a prompt for a new command and then you can just reboot. good luck let me know if it doesnt work.

"defrag c: -v" didn't do the trick. :-(

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ali92
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quote:
Originally posted by jonsimmonds
how partition type u using? fat32 or ntfs? and the reason why it may not be defragging properley as you swap file (virtual memory) could be on the disk and that cant be moved about as it is in constent use.

I'm using NTFS filesystem and my swap file (virtual/page memory) IS on the same partition that I'm trying to defragment. Does this need to be like Linux where u NEED to make 2 seperate partitions: 1 for data/OS and one for Swap File/space?

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USMC_Greg
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Explore your Windows CD

go to Tools --> mtsutil

find the "Defrag" file, right click, and install.

reboot your system, and your defrag program should start. Start defrag.


(note: the location of the defrag file, as explained here, is for the Win98 CD. For other windows users, you may need to do a little exploring)



Or you can get this nifty program that has 1000's of different functions for your computer - including defragging. It's called Xteq Setup. (http://www.xteq.com) I highly recommend this program to everyone who needs to tweak their OS, softwares, hardwares, etc.


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jon
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Registered: Nov 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by ali92
I'm using NTFS filesystem and my swap file (virtual/page memory) IS on the same partition that I'm trying to defragment. Does this need to be like Linux where u NEED to make 2 seperate partitions: 1 for data/OS and one for Swap File/space?


well you dont have to but it would make sense to have 2 partitions, as it keeps it all a bit more orginized. in my setup i have a seperate drive that i use to store my swapfile and tempory files etc.

did you format the drive as ntfs or use a tool to convert the drive to ntfs?


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