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JM
Supreme tranceaddict

Registered: Dec 2000
Location: Seattle, USA
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Nov-05-2002 06:32
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inatrance
Arcteryx ClimbAddict

Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Seattle, WA
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Nov-05-2002 06:55
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Renegade
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Prague, Czech Republic
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| quote: | | I think it is sad people respect a leader who will lie to them.... but I guess that is there choice.. |
Personally, I think it is sad that a good leader could be persecuted for having "sexual relations" with another woman. Clinton did a lot of good things, not just for his own country but for the rest of the planet, and I think it is indicative, in a way, of Republican values that they should try and impeach him on the grounds of what was, essentially, their own self-righteous, puritanical moral outlook.
He may have lied, sure, but to be honest I think what he lied about was far too trivial to condone the fuss that followed. So what if he did or did not have sex with Monica Lewisnki? A president should be judged on his policies, not what he does in his bedroom (or the oval office in this case ). Besides, it's not as though he was the first politician ever to "lie" in front of the public.
| quote: | | Of course, over the last couple of decades, the two parties have become eerily similar. |
Important point, and one I can associate with here (given that both the Labour and Liberal parties here are moderate right with their policies, and don't seem to disagree on too much). What the point of having a democracy if the only choices offer more or less the same result?
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Nov-05-2002 14:32
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LiquidX
It's All OvA!

Registered: Mar 2001
Location: In Ur Mind
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Well, WE dont know nor say PERCENTAGE if Osama would have attacked if Gore was on charge, nor we CANT say or see how he would have handled it. I think BUSH used the opportunity of TERRORISM to get it involved with politics, as it has showned, his been hanging with it for quite a long time now, its Nationalism that keeps him up there, if there was not TERRORIST attack, what would it be for this country ? it was allready going downfall with Bush been on charge.
As of Clinton, its HIS freaking LIFE ! the nation is not suppost to care what the president does with his personal life, if he LIED he had a reason to, he arguably had in stake his reputation and family matters, which if he did wrong, its a FAMILY buisness, not a NATIONS buiseness. Its not a lie like Republicans have done in the past with PROPAGANDA and so on . At last, Bush is using the attack agaisnt Iraq as a way to push his popularity ( only for NATIONAL means ) ... where its his war on terrorism ? ? Bin Ladin lately ? ..
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Nov-06-2002 01:32
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Pio
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jun 2002
Location: NYC-New Haven- San Juan-Amsterdam / PRTA #1
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If you're a tranceaddict and a Republican you're a bigass hypocrite.
Our electronic music movement is a progressive one in essence, read the RAVE Act if you wanna see what Republicans think of the music and culture we love.
Why do you think trance is the biggest in the Netherlands, the most progressive and liberal place on Earth? Because society is open-minded and can understand the most innovative artistic expressions on Earth.
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Nov-06-2002 02:15
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Izzy
Virtue & Vice

Registered: Apr 2001
Location: TX TA #5
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| quote: | Originally posted by DJ PíO
If you're a tranceaddict and a Republican you're a bigass hypocrite.
Our electronic music movement is a progressive one in essence, read the RAVE Act if you wanna see what Republicans think of the music and culture we love.
Why do you think trance is the biggest in the Netherlands, the most progressive and liberal place on Earth? Because society is open-minded and can understand the most innovative artistic expressions on Earth. |
im sorry thats just plain BS...
firstly the RAVE act is a non-partisan act... as in both sides are for it. infact only the senate has voted in favor of the act, and remember who has the majority in the senate right now, yup the democrats. the house has yet to act on the measure.
i tend to favor republicans more only because they take an approach closer to mine when it comes to foriegn policy, which is the most important issue for me. even on the economic sense i prefer R over D. but when it comes to other issues such as religion and social liberalism i tend to favor democrats a lot more, i feel on those issues the republicans are so damn conservative and afraid of change.
however that said i really do feel the line between R and D is blurred here in the states. i mean sheesh i see ads that go "vote for me, a democrat, because i will improve our education system." come on how exactly does the democratic party differ then the republican on this one? they both want to improve the education... no real difference in how one can do that other then setting aside more money for it, has nothing to do with party lines. same goes for a bunch of other local issues (home insurance for one which is a big issue now in texas).
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Nov-06-2002 03:19
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Pio
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jun 2002
Location: NYC-New Haven- San Juan-Amsterdam / PRTA #1
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| quote: | Originally posted by Izzy
im sorry thats just plain BS...
firstly the RAVE act is a non-partisan act... as in both sides are for it. infact only the senate has voted in favor of the act, and remember who has the majority in the senate right now, yup the democrats. the house has yet to act on the measure.
i tend to favor republicans more only because they take an approach closer to mine when it comes to foriegn policy, which is the most important issue for me. even on the economic sense i prefer R over D. but when it comes to other issues such as religion and social liberalism i tend to favor democrats a lot more, i feel on those issues the republicans are so damn conservative and afraid of change.
however that said i really do feel the line between R and D is blurred here in the states. i mean sheesh i see ads that go "vote for me, a democrat, because i will improve our education system." come on how exactly does the democratic party differ then the republican on this one? they both want to improve the education... no real difference in how one can do that other then setting aside more money for it, has nothing to do with party lines. same goes for a bunch of other local issues (home insurance for one which is a big issue now in texas). |
The RAVE Act may be non-partisan but it is extremely right wing in its essence. There's no huge difference btw. Democrats and Republicans in most issues right now b/c they have both moved to the center for obvious political gains. But in social issues, such as the RAVE act, Democrats will naturally be way more open minded and accepting that the old guard of the GOP.
You also mention foreign policy and I see a Israel flag in your avatar. No great difference there btw. both parties either. Well, Republicans are more nationalistic, isolationist and protectionist----Ideals that imo also go against the electronica culture which promotes global equality and the erosion of frontiers through music that is not intrinsic to any particular national culture.
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Nov-06-2002 03:49
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