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NicklessGuy
Coisinha Tosca da Mamãe
Registered: Dec 2002
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Interesting thread!
Im haunted by the same problem of Robstar, i think that having the ideia and to chase it is the fun part, and making the structure and arrangement is the boring part, i aways end up with another cool ideia in the middle of the process and abandon it to start that ideia.
Guess i (and Robstar too, lol) must try to focus more on the initial goal, hehe 
About the tune kicking in, i had this same problem too, what u should do for now is forget this.
Make songs that already starts energetic like many out there, and keep on praticing it until u think u can do good.
Its more a matter of personal creativity and u can raise yours (worked for me) by listening to many songs to see how they do it, and writing down everithing. Then try to copy these ideias to exercise, and when u hav done that enough, new original ideias should just pop in your head automaticaly cuz u will hav aquired the right feel for what u could expect to hear when each of your track kicks in, depending on its feel.
The same exercise can be done to boost your melody composing skill.
Melody, arrangement, rhythm and structure are the worst parts of producing, for sure, cuz it dont matter how much technical knowledge u hav and the quality of your souds, these need creativity and feeling, and u can only aquire that by listening much music, with time and praticing, but not reading a super tutorial and messing with knobs...
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TranceInMySoul
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Southampton, England
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At the moment I'm struggling with breakdowns  But, generally arrangement causes me problems too - getting the right flow to the track is something I can't do easily...
Anyway, conventional thinking on kicking in the tune has definitely changed. A few years ago everyone used to add more sounds and a crescendo snare roll. If you try this, sometimes the main tune doesn't kick in loud enough, so just add an extra measure / bar between the end of the snare roll and the tune kick in. You can hear this technique in many great tunes 
Tracks now bring the tune in using different methods, for example, bring just the kick in alongside the melody, let that run for a bit, then add the bass and other elements for the full tune kick-in. As has been said already, just listen to some tracks and copy the ideas!
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Jun-01-2003 10:58 
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Michael Russo
mmm mmm prog
Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Toronto, Canada
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| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
I can't for the love of God bring out good fx elements and all the little details that makes a good tune exceptional... |
This is killing me too...
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Jun-01-2003 19:48 
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