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fishfish
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Karkom Israel
Smiley DJ important question ...

so here is the deal...
i have two techs, connected to a pcv 175 (vestax) mixer.
the mixer is connected to my stereo system (sony g-88), which has 25 rms speakers. i have no other speakers connected to that system.
know when i spin, i find it very hard to find out and monitor, on mid volume, the mix - i mean, i cue the record in my headphone, then when time comes i release the records, and start twiking the e.q, but if the earphone fully cover my ear (senn hd 280) i can't hear the incoming track until it is too much strong, i can't hear the clashes between the frequencies.
how the fuck can you hear the mix, live and precise ?
like a dj would normally do in a club .
is it because i have a lame mixer, or a lame speaker system , or that i'm not ready to mix that way? what should i do,
help me please !!!
thanks in advance ,
fishfish.

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fzrr
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brisneyland

Have one ear in the headphones and the other ear out listening to the speaker closest to you. That way you can hear whats coming out of the main system and still hear the cued track. Or if the mixer supports it you can have each channel playing through separate ears in the headphones but this is not a good habit to acquire.

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Technaut
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ffs!

You must take the headphones OFF when making the transition, you need to be able to hear exaactly what everyone else can.

It only makes sense that way


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fishfish
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Karkom Israel

i'm monitoring with one ear only, but i can't hear the mix precisely, it is like something is blocking my hearing when my headphones are only on one side.
i've seen d'j monitorin mixes and they never remove the earphones when mixing, how do they hear the live mix precisely? is there any trick i can do, so i can hear the cued track and the live mix altogther precisely ???

Old Post Nov-22-2002 10:38  Israel
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hoenstly mate take them off after you have left the vinyl go and about to start the transition.

If you have beatmatched it enough then all should be fine, you can always put the headphone back up to yur ear if need be.

Ive done it this way for ages now and it works a treat


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HyPeRSoNiC
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Yavne, Israel

I always cue both channels in the headphones and put the headphones on both ears........
works for me
besides, you only need to hear if the beats are synced...... unless you want to do tricks with the EQ or something...... in that case, take off the headphones or at least one so you can hear what you're doing...
or you can switch the headphones to cue the master output.... some mixers have that.......


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Luke Terry
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
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the monitoring system for the 175 is very gay, i know, i have 1 but i use the djm instead now lol learning to monitor properly is something u will learn with time and practise, its just getting used to it...


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Dj Flesch
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Indianapolis, USA

from what I can tell about your eq, the mixer is what is making it difficult for you to adjust your volume levels accurately. First off, you don't have channel LEDs to tell what the individiual volume level of each channel is. Second, you don't have a knob to switch the degree of "live" vs "cue" percentage in your headphones. With this function, you can basicaly turn it all to live, then monitor in your phones and adjust accordingly. These are two things that you should look for on your next mixer

Anyway, you should be able to adjust on the fly since you don't have these functions. I mean, other djs use this mixer, so it has to work, your technique has to adjust to the mixer though! I would recommend what several othes have said here. Beat match the track and then start fading it in with your headphones off.

I would also suggest that you eliminate your crossfader as your volume control and leave it in the middle. This whay you adjust the volume via the channel volume slider. If you realise the incoming track is too loud then you can just not push the volume up all the way, and if it is too low, then you can increase it all the way, then increase the gain too!

Let me know if this works for you.

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fishfish
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Karkom Israel

listen up dude ...
i'm not using the crossfader at all, it is in the middle ever since i bought the mixer...
i've tried to take off the headphones, of course it works but i wanted to know if there is any other way to do it with my headphones always on one ear, becuase i have recently seen a movie where
moshic shlomi (good israeli dj) mix, he doesn't take the headphones off, but he has large monitors in there , and good mixer.
i've noticed he puts his head next to the monitor every time he wants to mix...
thank you

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VoiDeT
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Australia

i've been told by numerous friends, that you should never take your headphones off. Even during a transition. But i think this is making dj-ing a bit too strict. I say do what is normal for you, the most comfortable, Don't go with convention, go what suits you.

http://www.voidet.com/music/add/new...1481759128&mid=

I thought one of my articles would sort of show some of you guys that do your own thing instead of everyone else.

Ohh, and i have the 175, and i reckon it's monitoring is fine. I can do whatever i wanted on it. At first i was pissed off about the eq's not in the headphones, but you get used to it =)


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Tony Morello
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada

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Originally posted by fishfish
listen up dude ...
i'm not using the crossfader at all, it is in the middle ever since i bought the mixer...
i've tried to take off the headphones, of course it works but i wanted to know if there is any other way to do it with my headphones always on one ear, becuase i have recently seen a movie where
moshic shlomi (good israeli dj) mix, he doesn't take the headphones off, but he has large monitors in there , and good mixer.
i've noticed he puts his head next to the monitor every time he wants to mix...
thank you

he obviously then has the ability to hear the master output in his headphones

so if he jumped off a bridge will you too?

don't bother trying to copy another dj, develop your own style


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fishfish
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Karkom Israel

i'm not trying to copy anyone, but it seems that you get the beats aligned for further time if you listen carfully that way, and fix the errors really fast before someone even notice, otherhow why almost every superstar dj don't take off his headphones while mixing ????

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