how do you guys mix tracks like Marco V - I feel you that doesn't directly start with the beat? do you start mixing from the beat?

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i havent heard that song, but as far as mixing w/ out a beat, that can get tricky...

even without a beat, sometimes you can still pickup where the beat should be. (hard to put into words)...in that case, you can get tha tune beatmatched, and you can start to fade it in, and just try to line up the beat of the live track, to where the beat of the incoming song should be.

be very careful if u do this, because this has "trainwreck" written all over it if you fuck it up.

now, if you can barely, or not at all tell where the beat should be during the intro, then you HAVE to start it where the beat begins, unless you are god or something

idd i've experimenting with that...
i thought that it matched but then when the beat of track B appears it sounds chopping and its fucked up

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depends on the sound of the begining track.
take banginglobe(ferry corsten remix) for example.the beginning of this song has way to much funky treble to try to mix into a song for me so i just wait till the bassline kicks in.(ferry himself doesent even use the beginning part)on the other hand i'll take a song like Legoland(vocal mix)wich has about 20 seconds of no bassline at the beginning where the person screams something which i cant make out really loud.so when theres about 30 seconds left of a track,i'll throw legoland on and as she starts to scream i'll slowly turn legoland up as i slowly turn the volume(and bass) of the other track down.this usually always has good results for me.i call songs like Legoland transition songs.it's always good to have a few songs that you would consider transition songs on hand for when you want to pick up or slow down the pace......
















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this is where knowing your records real well comes in handy


oh and most importantly ..... let the "beat" grow on you ...... imagine the beat when there is none, laid over the intro of a track that has no beat ..... that can help A LOT
But the reality of it is, this will come with time ..... awareness and prediction of what's about to come is only available to those who percevere


my 2 pennies

yes, after a while of doing this
you'll just be able to feel a "groove"
i can't explain it
but you're able to feel where the beat should be
i've beatmatched songs during the breakdown
and come time to mix it, it's perfect

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Where did you get Marco V - I feel You on vinyl?

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Originally posted by xXxAzNrAvErxXx Where did you get Marco V - I feel You on vinyl?

It's on the con:fusion album sampler.

You'll probably find it at one of the online record-stores like only-dj's.

I have tried it's hard ... mainly cue up a point with a beat

if you have turn tables just cue it to the first beat,its very easy

if you have a cd mixer you have too cue it depends on the machine you have
you must have a cue button
just figure out how it is working

Just want to say starting off im no master dj but im ok. Know youre record really well first off, that way youll know when its coming in and the way it comes in as far as what it sounds like when there is a beat. You can kinda beat match that way. If all else fails turn down the bass all the way hahahah.

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Sultan & The Greek - Wadi (Original Mix)
Carlos Vives - Comu Tu (Paul Oakenfold Mix)
Bjork - Violently Happy (Mercurio Mix)

The easy way to do it is to beat match using the first proper beats, then when you've got it match the only problemn is cueing it in.

If there is an actual tempo to the intro, you can just cue up the first sound and adjust the timing slightly as the beat comes in, if it sounds wrong.

If there's no kind of beat at all, then you can't really mix with that part.

It all comes down to how good you are at mixing to the groove of the track, ie. the beat you dance to, as in what you feel, not just a bass beat.

ps. if you can mix breaks all this becomes a lot easier