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mr_smidge
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: London
See much OGG these days?

Do the release groups (POW etc.) ever churn out the new promos and so on in .OGG format? I'd like to build up my collection of OGGs and it's difficult to find many around these days...


Inspiration: Just found this slashdot article concerning Fraunhofer's royalty charges on mp3 decoders as well as encoders.


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InfiniteSquare
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what the hell is an OGG?


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Joca
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Registered: Feb 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by InfiniteSquare
what the hell is an OGG?


I heard they're smaller(in file size) compred to Mp3s. That's all i'v heard.

Will they play in winamp?


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undertensecond
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Yeah.1 think about ogg format tunes is that they would not pause for a split second if u fasty forward compared to mp3


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Mr.Mystery
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quote:
Originally posted by undertensecond
Yeah.1 think about ogg format tunes is that they would not pause for a split second if u fasty forward compared to mp3


Um... what?


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ogg is just another compression of music files, i think they are smaller than mp3s and have better quality i believe, there was anotehr thread about this, think they said 128kbit is equal to 256kbit in mp3

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Mr.Mystery
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quote:
Originally posted by liquidxxd
ogg is just another compression of music files, i think they are smaller than mp3s and have better quality i believe, there was anotehr thread about this, think they said 128kbit is equal to 256kbit in mp3


Yes, that's right.
Unfortunately mp3 is so widely spread that it will take years for ogg to catch on... if ever...


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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Yes, that's right.
Unfortunately mp3 is so widely spread that it will take years for ogg to catch on... if ever...

very true, mp3 is the standard now
it was just like when they had portable cd players and mini disc came out, mini disc never really got all that big because most stuff was out on cd, and it just never caught on, ogg might never catch on, unless the riaa does something with mp3s

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mr_smidge
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quote:
Originally posted by InfiniteSquare
what the hell is an OGG?


A search on google for "ogg" reveals everything you need to know, but let me save you time:

.OGG files are compressed audio files, similar to mp3, but are a superior technology. The codec itself has the full name "Ogg Vorbis". At higher bitrates (>64kbps) they greatly outperform MP3 and WMA in terms of sound quality. It is also an open source project, meaning there will never be any royalties to write an application capable of encoding or decoding such files (not true with MP3, see this article for more information.

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think about ogg format tunes is that they would not pause for a split second if u fasty forward compared to mp3

Erm no.. there are absolutely no defects in OGG Vorbis playback. Any problems like the one you mentioned are a defect in the media player you are using, not the OGG format.

See their website for more info about OGG.

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Will they play in winamp?

Yes, they play in WinAmp.

My Opinion

If you rip any tunes from CD or whatever source, I recommend you rip and encode them to the OGG file format rather than MP3. Not only is it a better technology that is supported by nearly all good media players, but it is completely free to use and won't suffer any of the problems that MP3 will do soon in the future (royalty payments etc.)... For your average law-abiding consumer, it may be fine to stick with MP3, but for those that are serious about audio, then you should consider this format as the next big thing.


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CygnusX
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Too bad my mp3/cdplayer doesn't support .ogg

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mr_smidge
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From the Vorbis FAQ:

What software and hardware support Ogg Vorbis?

Ogg Vorbis encoding and/or playback is now native in a wide variety of popular software. It's included in popular players such as WinAmp, Sonique, FreeAmp for Windows, and Unsanity Echo for MacOS. It's also supported in popular audio applications such as CDex, Siren Jukebox, and GoldWave. For a more complete list, refer to our software page. Ogg Vorbis is not supported by any publicly-available hardware yet, but portable playback is possible for Sharp Zaurus owners by purchasing tkcPlayer software from TheKompany.


I reckon that hardware MP3 players will no longer be made as enthusiastically as before, and we'll start seeing some Vorbis players come around pretty soon... It's perfectly possible for hardware Vorbis players to support the format without even letting the consumer know about it Go Vorbis, yay.


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netw3rkd
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OGG will never catch on...at least for the next few years.


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