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djmorph
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Columbus, Ohio, USA
beatmatching

I've read on some forums that beat matching w/ the high notes will improve your mixing skillz. I was wondering if when you DO beat match those high notes with one another, does the bass beat sync up as well? Cuz I was thinking if you go by the high notes you might have galloping horses or something. kthx in advance

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Arsalan
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Registered: Nov 2002
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I usally only match highs when there are no beats for example if i wanna bring track B and it has only highs, i just match the highs and the beat will be sync too if you have the pitch right of course.

The hardest is try to try the find pitch with a melody breakdown lol it's kinda hard but if you know your tracks well you can guess where the beats are and match it. Practice


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Dj Flesch
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Location: Indianapolis, USA

Matching the highs doesn't always work. You first have to make sure that your bass beats are at least close to being matched and in phase! Then you can listen to the highs so that you can tune the match even more. By listening to the highs, you can maintain the beatmatch when you can't hear the bass beats clearly, or one track doesn't have a bass beat (or it drops out for a while).


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Tony Morello
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Registered: Apr 2001
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actually, mixing with the highs always works
i haven't come across i track i wasn't able to mix
even crossing genres
i play hard house and sometimes the bass can be a little overwhelming and distorted so mixing using the basslines doesn't work too well

i mix listening only to the highs and my mixes are mint

if you mixing using bass try mix listening to the highs and you'll find your mixes will get tighter

i did and my mixes got a whole lot tighter

and once to can mix using the highs you can start crossing genres in your set
go from trance to breaks and back

almost every track has some sort of consistent high end (hi-hat, snare, whatever...) while the bass and kick could be all over the place

i haven't encountered a track yet that i've trainwrecked because of this method

and yes, the basslines will sync up when you mix with the highs


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Spin Doctor
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While you are mixing between tracks it’s often easier to notice the high end percussion drifting out of sync before the drum kick seems to. If you can spot this quick it helps loads. Once you’ve got your ears trained to listen to this, you’ll be able to correct and notice errors way before anyone on the dance floor picks up on them.

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Tony Morello
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quote:
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While you are mixing between tracks it’s often easier to notice the high end percussion drifting out of sync before the drum kick seems to. If you can spot this quick it helps loads. Once you’ve got your ears trained to listen to this, you’ll be able to correct and notice errors way before anyone on the dance floor picks up on them.


that's exactly what i meant when talking about your mixes becoming tighter, just couldn't find the right words

yes, it's easier to hear the high end come out of sync than the low end


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Spin Doctor
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Sorry to repeat what you posted DJ_Shockwav! I didn’t really read the thread through properly before posting. You know what they say though, great minds think alike!

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djmorph
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Location: Columbus, Ohio, USA
alright i think i understand

So when mixing you find the snare or high hat in the first song and then match it up w/ the snare of high hat in the second song. I'm also assuming you match it with in the same phrase? For some reason I just feel like I'll have to hear someone do it to believe it. Thanks for the help.

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Dj Flesch
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Shockwav
actually, mixing with the highs always works
i haven't come across i track i wasn't able to mix
even crossing genres


It won't work well if the highs are out of phase. I've listened to tracks where the hi hats hit on beats 1,3 or 2,4 (you get the idea I hope) and then you are forced to match the bass beats because the highs don't overlap. You can match the highs, but your mix will be out of phase.


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Mod1
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Location: Peterborough

once the track is in the mix i usually listen to the hats (if they ate there!) to check it , i always take off the head phones too!


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Mod1
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Shockwav
actually, mixing with the highs always works
i haven't come across i track i wasn't able to mix
even crossing genres
i play hard house and sometimes the bass can be a little overwhelming and distorted so mixing using the basslines doesn't work too well

i mix listening only to the highs and my mixes are mint

if you mixing using bass try mix listening to the highs and you'll find your mixes will get tighter

i did and my mixes got a whole lot tighter

and once to can mix using the highs you can start crossing genres in your set
go from trance to breaks and back

almost every track has some sort of consistent high end (hi-hat, snare, whatever...) while the bass and kick could be all over the place

i haven't encountered a track yet that i've trainwrecked because of this method

and yes, the basslines will sync up when you mix with the highs




all true!!!!


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April 9th Wildchild @ The Empire, Milton Keynes (late minute replacement for Brisky)
April 16th 2005 - Serious @ The Cross (w/ Jonnie Pickering, Simon Patterson and Judge Jules)
May 5th 2005 - Existence @ The Met Lounge,Peterborough (w/ Riley and Durrant, Liam Bamford)
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Tony Morello
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it was actually a breaks dj who taught me that method
he's spun breaks since the start and has never played anything else
so he thought mixing with the high end was what everyone did


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