what would be the best tempo for mixes with epic, uplifting, and progressive trance music? progressive sounds kinda bad when too fast, and the other 2 is boring when too slow....help me out here plz

Ehh..you pretty much answered your own question.
As far as exact BPM...tht's upto you to handle.

not a good idea to transition between uplifting and prog, they are very different styles and have completely different bpms so your transitions will fail and your set will sound crap, best choice is to separate your set into to parts, eg first hour play prog and then with a smart and fast transition get into your uplifting part of the set

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With respect, I disagree P`zazz. If you go from Prog first hour then Uplifting in the second with distinctly separate sections then that will sound bad. It’s all down to how you structure your set. The trick is to blend. Start off with the slower prog that sound bad fast and build things up. Every now and then covertly adding a bit to the pitch. You’ll have some faster prog that can be pitched up a bit more next with slower Uplifting/Epic thrown in. Then, if you’ve worked it right you’ll be able to drop the Uplifting stuff. The longer you have to do this the easier it will be. i.e. Prog to uplifting in three tunes is going to be harder than eight.

you are right, but this desires a lot of work, you will have to sit down and calculate the tempo of all your prog tunes and wright it down on the sleeve so that you will know which is the faster stuff and whether you like it or not the last prog tune will be pitched way too fast and may sound crap

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Originally posted by P`zazz you are right, but this desires a lot of work, you will have to sit down and calculate the tempo of all your prog tunes and wright it down on the sleeve so that you will know which is the faster stuff and whether you like it or not the last prog tune will be pitched way too fast and may sound crap

If you know your records well, there's no need for writing down BPM's...

That's the whole art of dj-ing: making a transition from the slower stuff to the faster tunes.

A transition is not only a smooth mix between two records, it's actually a mix between more than just one style...

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Originally posted by djxtension If you know your records well, there's no need for writing down BPM's... That's the whole art of dj-ing: making a transition from the slower stuff to the faster tunes. A transition is not only a smooth mix between two records, it's actually a mix between more than just one style...

spoken like a true master.......agreed hehe

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P`zazz as djxtension says, you should know your records well enough to not have to write down the BPM of each tune beforehand. You should just be able to know whether a tune is at the faster end of things or the slower end. We don’t me that you should know exactly what BPM it is and exactly how much it needs to be pitched, just a general feel.

Having said that, I don’t really think it’s cheating if you write the BPM of a tune, along with the Key, on your records as a guide as long as you don’t rely on this for mixing.

...well, here's my two cents.

I've done a bunch of digital mixers on my computer, with all sorts of different genres mixed together at times.

I most often tend to be about 140 BPM for the mixes, with slight variances higher and lower. That's just my personal preference for tempo, though some of my mixes are slower.

My stuff is hosted at www.texasbeatz.net , search DJ Mix section for "DJ Kibon" if you want an example.

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Eventually you'll get a feel for which records are slower/faster, and you can arrange them accordingly, if you like.

Use an acoustic guitar tuner to keep notes correct, not Flat nor sharp on first song

No One has recognized what the main thing changing the speed of the song does. If you only listen for tempo then you don't understand music basics and/or never created music. Not to sound Hastely

The speed changes the notes or scale of the song. Have you guys ever heard of Notes, Sharpes, and Flats??? the main note of a song should remain the same. Its kinda like keeping a instrument in tune.

BTW The word Pitch on "Pitch Control" has nothing in relation to speed but the actual scale of notes.

Soooooooo. If the main riff of the song is a regular note, keep it pitched as an regular note. dont pitch the song flat or sharpe it sounds not like the artist created it

Thats why when you see us Superstar DJ's, tossing a record on and then ripping it off the wheel and not play it is mainly BECAUSE the songs contents are not Tuned together at the same beat.

Soooo...Again if you can recognize by ear notes if they are flat or sharpe, lucky you!! or you can use the strobe on the first song.

Last edited by The Greener on Jan-18-2003 at 08:30