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Rakoon
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Gone
Angry 10-Minute long tracks

How come every track has to be around 10 minutes long? For those of us who cant mix worth crap, and want to just put a bunch of full versions on a CD and call it a mix, its frustrating when you can only fit 6 tracks cause they are all 13 minutes long. Why cant they just make them shorter? Anything past 8 minutes for a trance track is too long, and anything over 9 minutes is too long for progressive. Who else is with me?

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Eugene
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Maryland USA

I'm with you.

If it's so long, then it should be easier to mix into, because of a longer intro.
But if you're not a DJ, that sucks


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capricorn15
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Registered: May 2001
Location: CA

well, im not totally with you, i think like between 7-10 minutes is a good time for a trance track, but under 7 is too short, more than 10, for most of the time, is too long, although there are exceptions

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netw3rkd
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Registered: Jun 2002
Location: Kitchener / ON

Haha Rakoon. 10 mins is easy to mix.


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P`zazz
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: In A Trance

for me it's different, I might dj and I hate it when tracks are under 7 minutes cause then you have less time to perform your mix put what pisses me of the most is that I can't enjoy good tunes longer, eg:

Rollerball - Albinoni (super 8 mix) <-- whenever I listen to it I get shivers but every single time I get frustrated cause I don't understand why they had to make such a beautiful track only 6 minutes long, I mean considering that the intro and outro are aprox 1.5 minutes each that gives you only 3 minutes of the good part and I just want to bang my head on the wall


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robstar
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Stockholm

Some tracks has to be that long!

Ermmmmmm.....I forgot what I was gonna say...

Anyways, I think 10 minutes is just perfect!

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evil_bastard
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Registered: Dec 2001
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It might be easy to mix but for those of us without decks it can be irritating fitting less than 10 tracks on a CD and listening through intros and outros of every track.

Rakoon, you could just chop off the boring outros with musiCutter and then use a fadein and fadeout with nero? Wouldn't sound perfect but you would fit a few more tracks on every CD.

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torontotrance
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Toronto

Deejays often use long building intros to start because they are normally setting the mixer exactly to their likes and getting a feel for the equipment. Most deejays use long intros to set a mood, like Steve Lawler, Danny Howells and others. I mean who cares how long the friggin intro is, if it works. If you don't like it, go see crap ass deejays who play a track every 3-4 minutes.

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Sm0keMachine
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Registered: Sep 2000
Location: Israel

Well, what I suggest you to do before you burn a cd is just edit the tracks in SoundForge and cut all the parts that you don't want to hear and there you go.. it will take about an hour or two to edit all the tracks but it's worth it!

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shao
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Fresno, CA

I like the intros to trance songs but the outtros i usually don't like. BTW, they've got radio edits if you like those... And also, it's really not hard to edit in Sound Forge/Cool Edit whatever. I mean, you said you can mix, but when the song is already beatmatched for you, you can do it, right??


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TigerClaw
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Registered: Aug 2000
Location: Hialeah, Florida

I think tracks should be around 10 minutes or more cause it gives the DJ more time to make the transitions between tracks, usually 10 minutes tracks starts with a beat solo which then builds up to the bassline then in a while, the melody.

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P`zazz
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: In A Trance

Just use mixmeister. You load the mp3s in there, it mixes them for you (normal mixing or beatmatching), you can even edit the mixes yourself e.g. you can make the incoming track mix at a later stage and the outgoing track to mix at an earlier stage to avoid boring intros/outros. Then the prog exports the mix for you into wav format and in separate tracks if you want to, then all you have to do is burn it. You can easily fit 15-16 tracks on an 80min cd and it sounds mint


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