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Cyrus King
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Location: Toronto
Will there be a terrorist attack?

I was just thinking this....and what the reprecussions would be.

If there were one to happen in the US, i think the Adn=ministration will be quick to blame Al-qaeda and the supposed "links" they have with saddam. This attack would certainly boost support for war in the states!

Thats my theory.

Or could it backfire.... could there be more disapprovement of a war seeing that another attack has happened becuase of the US enforcement in the Middle east.

What are your opinions??


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melech_mike
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Registered: Feb 2001
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Hello!

Hey wifey!

I feel so special being the first to reply to your thread.
What an honour!

I feel not only the administration would be quick to blame al Qaeda, but most Americans in general would point their fingers in that direction. It’s a given that people would blame terrorists for terrorist activities. So far, al Qaeda has been the only terror group to have achieved terror strikes within the US, thus making them the obvious choice when picking a terror organization to blame.

I feel an attack within US borders would trigger an overwhelming offspring of hard-line hawks. People will feel unprotected on their own soil, and would be more open to hearing what actions must be taken in order to prevent future attacks on America.
War won’t sound so bad after all!
I feel that the lessons of 9/11 were all too easily forgotten.
A future attack will make Americans realize even more so that we must act swiftly to extinguish terrorism throughout the world.

I feel that racial profiling would go into overdrive and Americans would have even more suspicions towards those who the administration has already labelled the 'axis-of-evil'. It will tear Americans apart, causing new domestic problems for the administration to have to deal with.

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Or could it backfire.... could there be more disaprovement of a war seeing that another attack has happened becuase of the US enforcement in the Middle east.


I don’t think it would backfire really. People will be so terrified that the most extreme actions towards fining a solution, would seem reasonable to them. This is why I feel people will be keener on the idea of chasing terrorists wherever they may be hiding throughout the world!

Also, if it did backfire, and there was disaprovement (is that even a word?) of war, I don’t think it would happen because of US involvement in the middle east, but more so because it’s of its offensive with Muslim countries such as Iraq, Iran, and even Syria.
To many Extreme Muslims, these actions are seen as attacks not on a dictatorship, but on Islam - in all its "holiness".


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Cyrus King
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Registered: Oct 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by melech_mike
Hey wifey!

I feel so special being the first to reply to your thread.
What an honour!

I feel not only the administration would be quick to blame al Qaeda, but most Americans in general would point their fingers in that direction. It’s a given that people would blame terrorists for terrorist activities. So far, al Qaeda has been the only terror group to have achieved terror strikes within the US, thus making them the obvious choice when picking a terror organization to blame.

I feel an attack within US borders would trigger an overwhelming offspring of hard-line hawks. People will feel unprotected on their own soil, and would be more open to hearing what actions must be taken in order to prevent future attacks on America.
War won’t sound so bad after all!
I feel that the lessons of 9/11 were all too easily forgotten.
A future attack will make Americans realize even more so that we must act swiftly to extinguish terrorism throughout the world.

I feel that racial profiling would go into overdrive and Americans would have even more suspicions towards those who the administration has already labelled the 'axis-of-evil'. It will tear Americans apart, causing new domestic problems for the administration to have to deal with.



I don’t think it would backfire really. People will be so terrified that the most extreme actions towards fining a solution, would seem reasonable to them. This is why I feel people will be keener on the idea of chasing terrorists wherever they may be hiding throughout the world!

Also, if it did backfire, and there was disaprovement (is that even a word?) of war, I don’t think it would happen because of US involvement in the middle east, but more so because it’s of its offensive with Muslim countries such as Iraq, Iran, and even Syria.
To many Extreme Muslims, these actions are seen as attacks not on a dictatorship, but on Islam - in all its "holiness".


Honey,, i havent seen you on these boards for a while..are you cheating on me?

Im glad you actually took the time to answer this question with maturity.

With respect to the question,, i only thought it could cause a backlas becuase of the huge anti war demonstrations i saw around the states.

It was a total blow to the government seeing millions of people in support of the war.. espescially in New York city where the worst of the terrorist attacks occured.


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Re: Will there be a terrorist attack?

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
I was just thinking this....and what the reprecussions would be.

If there were one to happen in the US, i think the Adn=ministration will be quick to blame Al-qaeda and the supposed "links" they have with saddam. This attack would certainly boost support for war in the states!

Thats my theory.


I suspect you are right. However, I don't expect a terrorist attack until either the U.S. formally begins the attack against Iraq or the U.S. lowers its terrorism alert status.

There are two reasons I think that terrorists would prefer to attack when the terrorism alert status is lower, while only one reason I can think of for them to attack when it is higher. The reason to attack when it is higher is merely one of ego - to demonstrate their ability to execute successful terrorist operations despite our alert status. However, by waiting until it is brought down again, they would have a slightly greater chance of success (and a greater chance of doing more severe damage). Additionally, I think the terrorists would prefer not to allow the U.S. government the satisfaction of having "correctly guessed" when a terrorist attack would occur. Of course, the longer we stay at our current status with no terrorist attacks occurring, the less meaningful the status becomes and hence, the greater chance for an actual terrorist attack.

The other possibility is that if the U.S. attacks Iraq, there will be some terrorist attack in response to try to show us that what we're doing is only going to make the problem worse. Even if this is the case, it will probably be by a group with no ties to Hussein except a shared anti-American sentiment.

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It will re-appear at a time similiar to Sept.10 2001: When we least expect it.


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guys , those terrorist and al-qaeda bla bla bla they are all waiting for bush to attack iraq to start doing terror in america again , and trust me they're not protecting saddam or doing it for him (they don't give a damn about him since he's one of the corrupted arab leaders they denounce)


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Dj O'Callaghan
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Northampton UK

Yes of course there will be another terrorist attack, and its probably the UK who top the list as their America's biggest Ally. Everyday I open a newspaper and read about some fucking Algerians and its never any other nationality, its always Algerians trying to poison the water with rictin, I say force feed the bastards it back.

I think Tony Blair has made one huge fuck up, with all the asylum seekers in the UK theres 1000s well no one knows how many but its like having a secret army walking the streets, everyday I read about apartments getting raided, they need to sort it, torture people get information because at the end of the day I've done fuck all to harm Algeria no one in the Uk has ever harmed them, but yet they want to try their hands at a terrorist attack, a 0 tolerence policy is needed, they should get thrown into a camp, and have their records checked if their not geniune asylum seekers they should send them back and tell them they want to live they come here through proper immagration procedures like everyone else did! At the end of the day their will be a terrorist attack somewhere in the West it will just be a matter of where and when.

btw take not I'm not anti immagration my parents are immagrants but just remember if you had someone trying to do shit you'd be mightly pissed off too.


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CALLA i noticed something about britain's immigration policy , maybe i'm wrong but i have the impression it's like this : "ok people if you're brave enough and succeeded on entering here (illegaly of course) then we will regularize your situation ... but first you need to enter" that's why you see this crazy amount of illegal immigrants all heading to the UK , even if they're already in italy spain or france , they don't care they wanna go to the UK cuz as soon as they step in = they get their papers ...

correct me Calla maybe i'm wrong


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Dj O'Callaghan
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Registered: Apr 2001
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Its in a digusting state Taha. The laws a fucking joke, we have a couple of major groups who seem to be coming into the UK by the 1000s.

Somalians - who personally seem like nice people and don't cause trouble, and most of all they work.

Kosovan/Albanians - The biggest milkers of the lot theres 1000s of them, hanging in gangs entering the uk illegally.

Slavs - Just as bad as the Kosovars.

Kurds - They come to settle down for a new life but seem to be content with fighting the Turkish community,

Afghans - haha yeah I suppose some are geniune the cases the funny thing is 4 ex taliban fighters got let into the UK thats what a fucking joke it is.

Its really fucked up they say every week yes we tightening laws, heres the law they enter a port of entry, sign some papers, get their details checked, get given an area to live, A HOUSE! FREE FOOD EVEN WHEN THEIR EARNING BENEFITS! BENEFITS! when theres 1000s of British people who live on the streets, who are starving and cold it digusts me, They should show 0 tolerence to illegal immagrants because the majority of illegal immagrants turn out to be Albanians who pretend to be Kosovan who end up in London pimping out Eastern European whores, its messed up 60 Kosovan Albanians, got put up in Holiday Inn or Hyatt hotel, with free gym free movies, they got to stay for 6 months and were told they didn't have to work it costed the British tax payer between £250,000 - 500,000. To solve the problem they should build camps, keep them in there untill their records get checked, to be honest aswell the Wars Over in Kosovo so I suggest they fuck off back rebuild their country and if they want to stay come over here properly like every other immagrant, as their not being persecuted and shouldn't dare to use their status as an Asylum seeker as it makes it harder for geniune cases. I think once a problems over in the country of the asylum seeker they should send them back, as only about 40% actually bother to work and that 40% should stay as they will make decent people.

Its very very annoying Taha. The crime rate in the UK is taking the piss, inner city areas decay, people are getting shot dead by the dozens a week in some cities, Maybe if Tony Blair stopped fucking around letting any sod into the UK, some money could get properly invested in decent community projects, the area where I grew up right Taha was as rough as fuck, I've seen shit like flats boarded up, and they've been boarded up and unused for about 10 years odd, outside theres syringes, bottles and cans which crack heads have been using, arseholes walk around the streets day and night in gangs causing trouble, I've lost count how many people I was at school with years ago, who have either been murdered, or end up in jail, this countrys decaying from inside. The British immagration laws. let down everyone in areas like where I used to live, they should set up community projects in these areas draft in extra police to deal with the crime rate, but they can't you know why? because all the tax payers money which they pay for to be protected, have their kids schooled, and free healthcare, is used to pay for asylum seekers hotel bills, and their free spending money, their brand new motorola phones with cameras their brand new Nike trainers, The Verdict to why they come to the UK its a soft touch.


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man i understand how you feel and i agree with you. out of curiosity , are there a lot of moroccan immigrants ? what is the general impression they give ? are they good ?


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Slavs - Just as bad as the Kosovars.


Hey, what's so wrong with us, not all of us are that bad.


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I think its a waste of time to discuss what if's...

butttttttt...

AL-Qaeda is a terrorist group that works like an umbrella. Everyday people make anti-war protests, without knowing they are creating a shield to hide the terrorists around the world.

The more the large population of fundamentalist/extremeist muslims (dont even try arguing) see's that the world is 'weak' as they see it in their culture, they will continue to strike terror, and more and more as they can...

Look at what happened after SEPT 11, suddenly such a big movement in muslims joining terrorist groups... I have no idea how many new cells started from regular muslims who thought 'it would be nice to have our jihad we always get told about...' that saw it can finally happen because unlike russia, that deals with chechnia by slaughtering those that have anything to do with disturbing the peace, America and most of the world are trying hard to be 'liberal' and 'democratic' which is great, but we are dealing with a new problem... something new has to be done, and the world which has in a way become 'lazy' in its ways of war, doesn't want to 'get up and take out the trash'. So many wars have been fought, the world as it is today is purely from conquests. I hope as we all that no more are needed, but lets be honest! So many people are going in their own ways, doing their own things, if we are going to have world peace, there must be some higher level of unity, a common cause if you will

So far, the only common cause is money, and ecomony and power. So far thats what the world has always been about, and as history shows, it continues to bring nothing more of peace and much more of WAR!!!!

about the what if game...

In Israel, a man in the knesset was killed in jerusalem last year in october, Rehavam Ze'evi ( http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/biography/Zeevi.html ) who was eating in a hotel. Just as he spoke against the terrorists, and they saw him as a threat, they got him.

THE BIGGEST SPEAKER NOW, SURPRISINGLY, AND HAPPILY is BUSH!!!! And WHATIF THEY GET HIM?? which im sure they would try, considering there is no coutnry to attack and no idea how to get them...

suicide muslims are a dime a dozen these days boys!!!


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