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gareth
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Toronto
problem with a powerful beat

hmm I got all my layers and melodis and bass working
and i layed a kick and snare on top which i got from a sample loop. in the loop it sounds powerful but when i sample the kick and snare out of it and lay it on my track it sounds so dead and flat and dry..
and not powerful.. i used compressor too.. and tried eqin around but cant get it.. i wonder why?

Old Post Feb-25-2003 15:15  Canada
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DJ-Fuq
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Registered: Apr 2002
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U might end up having to lower the volume of everything except the kick, its annoying but sometimes has to be done.

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Martin McG
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if you cant amplify it then i suppose you gotta lower the other volumes then


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TranceInMySoul
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Registered: Dec 2002
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It's a well known fact in producing that something that sounds good by itself rarely sounds as good bedded into your track. This most applies to instrument sounds, but also applies to drumloops

If you like the loop, just take the kick out, shove the loop in the track and then use a different kick alongside it.

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Dj Thy
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Belgium, Earth

Many producers have the problem that when only the rythmic section is playing it's dynamic and punchy, and as soon as other instruments are coming in (mostly the leads) it'll seem weaker.

Compression will help to make things fit better, but the main part will remain how you mix (as in balancing the levels) everything.

You should really look into the style of music you are making.

If you make folk music, everyting mostly revolves around the vocal. If you make rock, usually it's the guitar that's most important. In dance music (wether it be trance techno house or whatever) the music mostly evolves around that rythmic section. So basically you should build your track around that. Begin with setting your levels of the drum section and the bassline after that as those will carry the rest of the music (more than in any other style). You might want to go pretty extreme in that way, like "allocate" pretty much all the dynamics to those two parts, and trying to "squeeze" all the rest in what is left of the dynamic range. I suggest you take a look at "pro" releases. Look at how high the meters are peaking when only the kicks/drums/bass is playing, and look at how high they will peak when the music is at its loudest. You'll generally notice that there isn't so much difference... Take your conclusions.

Old Post Feb-25-2003 20:54  Belgium
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gareth
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Toronto
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well im actually doin a progressive track

heres the link.. maybe u would hear my problem

http://www.djgc.net/music/djgareth-unknown.mp3

i didnt use any loops too.. sampled everything off a loop and layed it out to my own beat..

thx

but ill try releveling stuff too

ps: hope u guys like it too haha

Last edited by gareth on Feb-26-2003 at 20:28

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gareth
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any idea ppl? :P

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Michael Russo
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Toronto, Canada

I don't understand the problem exactly...

Are you listening to the loop, for example, in winamp, and then cutting in your wave editor and loading it into a sampler in your host?

If you are, try loading your track without the kick, and then loading the loop. Play the loop with the rest of your track, and then solo it. How powerful is it each time?

Old Post Feb-27-2003 00:36  Italy
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