Unbiased test.....

Test equipment are the Styli respectivly, Technics SL- 1200 MK3, xONe62, art Vactrol tube leveling preamp(this changes the sound! but the same settings are used on each), recorded analog signal to an akai vs-403u, no digital signal present. Recorded true analog signal to a run of the mill SB128 Sound card.
The Stanton and Ortofon are in the same cond. Styli approx. 20 hrs.
Ortofon mounted in brand new Technics headsell

The objective of this test is to see if we can hear the diff between a DJ use Elliptical Styli vs. a Hi-Fi use elliptical Styli. I have noticed the size of the cantilever on the ortofon is like less than half the Groove II. No backspins on this test!

Stanton GII 2.75 gr. my pref. "0" hieght anti skate turned to "0"
Orto OM-20 1.5 gr. there recommendations.I raised the tone arm
height alot and eyeballed 22% not there
recomendations?

Full vinyl Rip unplayed record of..........

check later........

Anyone know were I can upload the song x 2 so everyone can hear?? Wav preferably but MP3 will do.

Screw that...... I will do an iso rip of both songs so its as close to real CD as possible or any recommendations???

convert it to 192kbps MP3, using the LAME encoder.

this will allow you to compress it without losing much quality.
if you want significantly better quality than that, you'd go to 320kbps mp3, but without a 24bit line in on your soundcard, i don't think it will make much difference.

a wav or iso file would be simply unmanageable to download, they are about 10Mb a minute, so if you did two songs 7 minutes each, that would be a 140Mb to download, as opposed to about 14 for 192kbps mp3

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They both sound really good.

The GII seems to punch its way through the mid, clear but some frequencies want to power the song.(not as bad as it sounds) Bass is solid. Not garbage can sounding but Big bass gutair & melody with the beat. This styli really uses your low end, watch if you gotta sub cause its gonna go off LOUD!

The Ortofon remains kinda musically stable throughout the dynamic range, meaning that 5+ note synth sounds the same 5+ notes no matter if the Bass is Pounding or it goes silent. every instrument is precise, they don't harmonicaly amplify together in certain parts. This cartridge you know what real life instrument the synth is replicating. Good for all around mixing

The two have distinct sounds. The GII performed better than I expected compaired to the $170US single Orto OM-20. When I think of High output devices I think of missed dynamics and especially bad high's but I have to admit the GII does it in style.

I would prefer the ortofon for really loud situations, The GII seems to make loud pumpin situations outta everything.

Toss up, of course the orto is a awesome unit but doesn't seem as tough and seems a little fragile(obviously). The GII makes bass youve' never heard.

Can't say???????????????/ Would like to try the concorde or whatever they are

No offense, but unless you record it into a much higher sampling rate ie 192KHz (which is not the same as 192kbps!), then you are just going to loose any of the analog quality you originally had when you digitize it. You'll have to convert it to a digital signal that is better than analog and you can't do that with most of the common software available.

So any analysis you do, even in uncompressed wave format will still be a poor way to analyse the minute quality differences because you are more than likely still recording that wave file at 41KHz. You can usually record at 49KHz with most normal software, but two things here: One, the sound won't be that much better compared to 41KHz, and it's still worse than an analog signal; two you will have to listen to it on your computer along because you cannot listen to anything other than 41KHz on a cd player.

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I haven't recorded it digital, what a waste of time that would be, it goes from the tube pre to the akai meaning True Analog, I even garbaled up the tape by accident to make it offical,hehe

Remember the orto I used was not for dj'ing I think. I could probaly get away with not breaking the cantilever if paying attention

I have a pair of old Stanton 680 EL or those Hifi white styli ones that i gotta solder. When I used them and the white D6800EL styli they sounded unreal, those will be tested next.

I was referring to your desire to post it here in MP3 format. What are you recording it to and what sampling frequency are you using? Also, can your mixer handle the frequency ranges that your styli are capable of putting out? I know that most mixers won't reach those ranges--esp those of some of the better ortofon styli.

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When you dance, the DJ takes you on a journey, but he or she is usually not the focus of your experience at a club or festival or wherever you hear the music. Dancing is. Music is.