OK, so lots of people were raving about the whitelabels, so I got a pair. Now, the guide on how to set them up is a bit vague... like it tells you to experiement to find the best settings.

So, can people tell me what the best settings are? Here's my current settings:
TTs = 1210 MkIIs
Weight = 3.5g
Height = 4.5mm (the tonearm is noticably sloping down)
Anti-skate = 0
Needle distance = ??? It's as it was when delivered, with the marker on the large middle indicator out of the five.

One of my decks works ok like this. I have to work pretty hard to make it skip. The other deck is a real problem - I only have to touch the record and it skips (even with maximum weight) - is the needle on this one shafted? What is wrong?

Thanks!

Maybe you should alter the height of the tone arm..

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Originally posted by TranceInMySoul Height = 4.5mm (the tonearm is noticably sloping down)

It shouldn't be sloping up or down mate, an even tonearm is needed

Lower the tonearm to 2mm, drop counterweight back to 2.0g you won't need more than that unless you plan on scratching. The tonearm is supposed to glide over the record, not eat into it.Thus the innovative design of the whitelabels. Cheers...

btw. the instructions are clear, just read it about dozen times each time slower than the previous, then you'll understand what the instructions wants you to do to have the carts set up properly, each time in the instructions it says like fig x, make sure you pause there and look at the picture then continue on reading. Cheers...

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I've got mine set to:
3 counterweight
3 tonearm height
0 aniti-skate
Moved the stylus back to 51 millimeters(?) I think it's 51. It's the first line on the stylee.

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Originally posted by DJ Tranz Lower the tonearm to 2mm, drop counterweight back to 2.0g you won't need more than that unless you plan on scratching. The tonearm is supposed to glide over the record

I tried this, and one of the carts really did glide over the record - straight into the centre But, the instructions said (for hi-fi) to set the anti-skate to the same as the weight, so I did that too. Now I can play records, but the slightest touch on the vinyl makes the needle skip like mad.

Shouldnt you be able to add more weight and therefor making the
needle follow the grooves better?

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This might seem stupid, but I have to ask. Are you sure when you're setting the counter weight, you're not just moving the dial w/the number on it?

The instuctions did say to set the anti-skate to the same setting as your counter weight, but I set mine to 0 because it sits in the groove better (Tracking).

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Originally posted by TranceInMySoul I tried this, and one of the carts really did glide over the record - straight into the centre But, the instructions said (for hi-fi) to set the anti-skate to the same as the weight, so I did that too. Now I can play records, but the slightest touch on the vinyl makes the needle skip like mad.

Now is when you need to play with counter weight a bit, you have room all the way upto 3.5g, after that the bass gets too heavy sounding.....

also when following instructions on setting up the carts, the manual forgets to tell you to take off the needle cover, Sorry don't mean to make this sound so obviously stupid, but many people forget to do that and set up the carts with needle covers on which is a wrong weight balance on the tone arm thus the whole set up is incorrect. Cheers...

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OK, thanks for the suggestions... I'll keep working on it and report back.

Changing the weight to 3.5g reduces the skipping when I touch the vinyl a bit, but it's nowhere near stable enough to mix with.

For the record (boom, boom):
1) I did take the needle cover off before doing anything else
2) I know how to set the counter weight If you only moved the dial after balancing the tone arm the needle would never touch the record, right?

I had the exact same problem with the new ones I bought. By switching the carts back and forth I determined that it was one of the needles, not the TT or the tonearm. I kept taking out the carts and putting them back in... played with the weight quite a lot... eventually, (I'm not sure when, it stopped doing it). But now the other works just as great, I thought it was a bum needle at first, but turned out to just be a little quirk... Let me know if this helps.

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Another setting that no one has mentioned before is that you TTs need to be very level in order to maintain good tracking. Go get a level and make sure that both tables are flat!

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