I'm a P.C gamer, which footy game shud I get? I use a PS pad hooked up2 my P.C, I support a Divion 1 team, so in Fifa I cud play as Preston North End, but PES is meant to be all round betta... HELP!

PeS 3 for sure.

Definitely pes3. Its brilliant.
Theres 2 fake teams, so u can just edit 1 of them (flag, name, players, kit etc) and make it preston if u want.

Fifa 2004 for sure, PES 3 is for the kids who like cartoonish graphics and arcade gameplay with fake teams, not to mention players who run like they have shit in their pants and stand around like baboons.
Fifa 2004 might not be perfect, but it sure as hell alot better then PES3 in everyway.
In Fifa 2004 you got tons of teams and divisions from all over the world, you can start a career mode and manage your team thru league games, cups and european chamionships, or take a lower division team and promote it to the priemier league, but if you fail to do your objectives you can get sacked, or if you do them well you can get offered more jobs from bigger teams.
Not to metion the stunning graphics and detail, the freekick, corner and pentaly in Fifa 2004 far supirior to PES3s crap.
And can you get tackled by a keeper in PES3 ? I dont think so! In Fifa 2004 you can.

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Originally posted by ThaDevil Fifa 2004 for sure, PES 3 is for the kids who like cartoonish graphics

Funny how u only started saying that after i called fifa cartoonish.

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and arcade gameplay

Lol ur full of shit. Fifa is MADE to be an arcade game, pes is a sim.
So whats wrong with the gameplay? Tell me specific things. The only thing about the gameplay u have mentioned was players not running forward enough, and i explained that u had to change ur tactics (which shouldve been obvious anyway).

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with fake teams, not to mention players who run like they have shit in their pants and stand around like baboons. Fifa 2004 might not be perfect, but it sure as hell alot better then PES3 in everyway. In Fifa 2004 you got tons of teams and divisions from all over the world, you can start a career mode and manage your team thru league games, cups and european chamionships, or take a lower division team and promote it to the priemier league, but if you fail to do your objectives you can get sacked, or if you do them well you can get offered more jobs from bigger teams. Not to metion the stunning graphics and detail, the freekick, corner and pentaly in Fifa 2004 far supirior to PES3s crap.

Bullshit.

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And can you get tackled by a keeper in PES3 ? I dont think so!

Shows how much u know then. Keepers do tackle and foul players.

DJ-Fuq stop crying already, and face the facts that Fifa 2004 is the ONLY soccer game for the REAL soccer fans
And if you call Fifa 2004 cartoonish, then PES 3 is just a pile of shit from comic book.

And its funny how you keep making up that Fifa 2004 is arcadish, well I guess you keep confusing soccer with criket ?
Fifa 2004 is as stilumant as it comes, PES 3 is all arcade and fast gameplay.

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Originally posted by ThaDevil DJ-Fuq stop crying already, and face the facts that Fifa 2004 is the ONLY soccer game for the REAL soccer fans

Funny thing is, out of all the real football fans ive spoken to about this, including from football newsgroups/boards, ur the only person that prefers fifa. I dont think uv ever watched a match.
And u STILL havnt said whats wrong with the gameplay. Why not?

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And if you call Fifa 2004 cartoonish, then PES 3 is just a pile of shit from comic book. And its funny how you keep making up that Fifa 2004 is arcadish, well I guess you keep confusing soccer with criket ? Fifa 2004 is as stilumant as it comes, PES 3 is all arcade and fast gameplay.

Stilumant?
I think u mean its a simulator, which its not, ea have even admitted that.

should i be the judge?

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Originally posted by djSlain should i be the judge?

Only after a brain transplant.

but i'm a brain surgeon.
the answer is: people have different opinions

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Fuq, your not worth my time little boy, be gone.

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Originally posted by ThaDevil Fuq, your not worth my time little boy, be gone.