As you all can see with the current cancellations of (EX: Creamfields Las Vegas and New York) what do you think the problem is with the states? Is it a lack of origination for the tours? Or just plan no love for the music? If thats the case I would be more than happy to take that job from someone to kick the scene back up, because right now were not looking to sharp is all I know. sure we have some good "spots" but nothing to brag about at the moment.

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i think (around here anyway) its because ppl cant get away from rap/hip hop, which is kind of dance music too (its true even though i hate it)
but i think it might be starting to grow a little. for example, my parents are subscribed to Colubia House (music club) and i sometimes look at the magazines, and i noticed that they actually now have a section for trance, or electronic, which they have never had before. just small things
but i think when the huge rap/hip hop craze slows down, people will begin to notice it abit more

of course that may all be bullshjit, but thats what i think

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We live in a world of hip hop/R&B and gangsta rap.....it seems like all the young kiddies are into that stuff.....that's fine every one dances to a different beat.......if we over here ever want to experience a true trance nation we'll have to save out pennies and head over to holland to party..........

cheers

Yeah Wilson I understand what you mean by the "little things" As for around here the little things are the small group of people who love the music. Untill all the rap/hip hop crap dies down and people get off the 'thug bandwagon' (which I dont see happening anytime soon) thats when they will start listing to trance and say "hey look at this new musik" not knowing its been around forever heh... but yeah i hope you understand what i mean.

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i think at least a bit of the problem is that trance isnt american... ur population is sooo hung up on american music, country, r&b, hip-hop etc... because there arnt that many american artists (and the few there are never get heard by the general population) no-one listens to it..

also (this doesnt apply to all of u.. no the ones reading this neways) americans have this tendancy to practice sheepism... gearoge w (for WANKER) bush says electronic music is bad and encourages drugz... america thinks electronic music is bad and encourages drugs...

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there is no trance scene because of TRL. the only music that makes it big in the US is music that idiotic pris-pants fad-chasing "wanna be cool" girls see on TV. EVERY girl was into pop music. now ever since Incubis came out, EVERY girl "has always been a roadie in their heart" and a "long time rocker." If ONLY 1 trance song made it on TRL, as a WORLD PREMIERE or whatever, then suddenly EVERY idiotic pris-pants fad-chasing "wanna be cool" girl would IN AN INSTANT say "o ya, me and raving go way back" "i've always been a dedicated trancer" and whatever. TRL leads music everywhere.
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as i said... sheepism

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Eh,

America is a country for fools with the attention spans of retarded goldfish. Things get popular when they are already commercialized...because in this country, if people aren't bombarded with advertisements, they don't really care.

The electronic music scene is not flashy enough(despite the numerous amounts of strobe lights ), and way too misunderstood for it to gain any kind of a foothold. Hence the only people that usually go out are the morons who feel like getting fucked up, and give the scene a bad rap.

For instance, with hip hop. Hip Hop was HIP HOP about 10 years ago, I don't know what to call this gansta-white-boy peddled shit that is so popular today, but it doesn't deserve to be even in the same catagory as hip hop, hell it doesn't even deserve to be in the same catagory as SHIT. Yet, it's popular, why? Because it's commercial, it's no longer about art, it's about selling music.

I for one would love the scene to stay underground. I don't want these fucking retarded ass kids coming to ruin something else that I love(although they aleady have). I just wish for a little more intelligence, and unity in the American scene. Something that could be respected for what it is, and not because it has mass commercial appeal.

It's already happening, though, the commercialization. Companies capitalizing on "raver gear", and the far end of trashy trance compilations that deserve to be defectated upon...

To sum it all up...American's (for the most part, like someone said, if you are reading this, you're okay in my book ) like being goldfish, and they love things for MASS audiences. Let's face it folks, American society would never allow for the kind of exposure we want...without distorting it to benefit someone else. And that, my friends, we do not want.

Peace and Respect.


P.S. I'm a very very bitter party-kid, excuse me if I offended you.

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I think the rave scence has been way to stereotyped and associated with drugs that it scarces most people into the scene. The media and government tries so hard to make us think: raves = drugs = deaths

Besides when the public ever hears about electronic music what do they hear? Some cracked out raver yelling about how great the scene is, how much there is love (***ing PLUR), while all the time they're wearing a pink fuzzy visor, size XXXL UFOs, and power puff girls apparel. Or a local "rave" getting busted because two people died. Our scene gets the short end of the stick soo often, that that's what we look like to most people. Stupid under-matured kids, and I know that they only represent about 20% of the scene.

I don't mind the ravers, they built the larger following, but not all of them are great spokes-persons for the community. (Even though it's funny to see them on TV )

I'm just venting here, sorry. Basically we are years behind Europe. Until we get the stereotypes off the scene, we will always be in the shadows of Pop, rap, etc.

Payce

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Dude, you're right, but unfortunately, we live in a country where stereotypes are much more meaningful than the truth.

What else could explain country music?!?!? hehe...


All of us intelligent, bitter, US kids, should take over a third world country, and make it our party country.

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Why wont trance make it big in N.am? Well somebody in some other thread raised a good point. europe is densely populated. Canada and US are not. Youve got packed coastal areas, and nothing much in between. But all this nothing adds up to half baked small events that people simply cant come to!
It would take something close to 40 hours to drive across our country. In 40 hours in europe, u can drive 15 hours, party and drive home agian!!! Trance requires people. And IMO thats why it will only flourish on the coasts(ie, NYC, Miami, LA, San Fran) and the larger Canadian cities.

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the only way trance will flouish here is if it get major exposure on the music channels...
but then you get all the little 'wannabies' and the like...
and quite frankly, if that's what's going to happen to trance... i'd rather not, it's better if it stays underground and not oversaturated with cheese to please the masses

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