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bob_bollocks
tranceaddict in training
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Ah come on, someone's gotta have at least tried it?
Go on, have a listen and tell me what you think.
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Mar-24-2004 21:32
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bob_bollocks
tranceaddict in training
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Any more takers?
Come on, I really need some encouragement from the community. Please help out by just having a listen.
Thanks in advance.
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Mar-25-2004 15:58
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bob_bollocks
tranceaddict in training
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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| quote: | Originally posted by Sunquest
i would comment, but i cant hear it 
whats ogg?
wont work in winamp |
Yeah sorry, I did encode it in MP3 to start with, but it just over the 10Mb limit of my free virgin account.
As Mr. Mystery says, any newer version of Winamp has OGG support built in or you can just get the OGG input plugin yourself.
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As for the track itself:
It has a very distinct "software feeling" to it. I can't really explain it but I can hear it.
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Hmm, not sure what you mean, but if you could elaborate a little, it would seriously help me to isolate how to improve the track.
For this particular track I did indeed use a large number of software instruments (for percussion and synths), but I did also make quite a bit of use of my hardware - DR202, EMU XL1 Turbo.
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The percs indeed sound quite weird but I see you already know that
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Yeah, I just the levels wrong when I was recording it. Not only that, but the mastering process exaggerated the loudness of some of them, making them stand out too much.
One thing I do know is that it is a little full - I need to EQ the individual tracks because they are clashing somewhat and muddying the overall sound.
Once I get myself a nice shiny new Behringer MX9000, it should be a lot easier to eq all the various tracks and deal with levels - at the moment, I have to adjust the mixer in cubase at the same time as my outboard one; it can be pretty confusing at times.
Any more takers?
As this is the first time I've ever let anyone (other than my flatmates) listen to any of my tracks, I'd really like to get as much feedback as I can.
Please, if you do have a spare minute or two, please post.
Thanks loads so far.
Breame
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Mar-25-2004 19:04
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BassAngel
Supreme tranceaddict

Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Sheffield, UK
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Greetings Bob, just listening now!
Don't like the kick you're using mate, it's not very powerful.
Right there are two areas I guess, tune and production so I'll just pop down my opinions in both@
Production - The perspective doesn't seem to be there in the mix. The clap and it's reverb/delay take an inordinate amount of room up compared to everything else, that stands out more than anything else attention-wise.
At 3:25 that lead may need some reverb on it to give it more feel or something.
I agree with Mr. Mystery, to me it does sound soft synthy, specifically due to the lack of reverb/air and the same volume of each instrument, it seems too "perfect" in a non-good way (although neither would using loads of reverb on everything fix it either - a tricky balance). After kick off, the bass and bassdrum lack the power. Because of this everything else seems over-represented.
If you wanted my personal opinion on what I would do, I would focus mostly on the bassdrum and kick (google for an article by Eufex about this issue, it's brilliant!) take out the lows on the hi-hats as the hats clog some space up that could potentially be freed. Once you've sorted out the bass/kick, then relate everything else to that. On the instruments that are background, just try and make sure they stay there.
Tune itself is a good enough tune, I know it sounds horrible but to me it sounds standard really. It's not bad and there's nothing wrong with it. I would like to compliment you on your counter-melodies though, they show that you've got the talent to write a tune.
These are my opinions mate, take them for what they are really.
Great name matey!
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Mar-25-2004 20:23
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bob_bollocks
tranceaddict in training
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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So far so good. Comments so far:
*Melody good (maybe a little boring)
*Production bad
OK, at least the production can be fixed. I'll have a little play with the kick & bassline and see if I can make them a bit more 'driving'. I thought that the bassline itself was ok (reasonably energetic), maybe I should make it more prominent?
Also, I'm reasonably happy with the hihat composition, although you are certainly right in thinking they should be EQ'd to take out the lows - something I've been meaning to to anyway. That should hopefully clear up a little muddiness.
I've just got hold of the pieces for a spangly new Athlon 64 3000+. Once I've got that built I might be able to work on the track a little.
I'm also gonna see if I can get a Novation Drumstation in a month or two, since I'm really restricted with the percs; most come from the BOSS through a simple stereo output, along with the bass and the kick. I'm quite hampered for the moment....
I do realise that the mixdown itself is rubbish, I will be working on this with my limitd equipment shortly.
The comments I've had so far has been really useful to me, thanks so much! Any more for any more? You'd be helping me out hugely.
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Mar-26-2004 15:18
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bob_bollocks
tranceaddict in training
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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I seriously do appreciate the criticism. Whether it be good or bad, it's still constructive and does help.
Most of the people on this board (especially the producers) seem to be really friendly and do help out the community a lot.
Thanks for your comments, they are really useful.
Breame
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Mar-26-2004 16:34
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bob_bollocks
tranceaddict in training
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Mar-26-2004 17:06
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